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Here's the part where, again,  I insert the silly thought that some people have very good reasons for not using real names and/or posting videos. You know, like people whose real lives are actually more interesting than their forum lives. If those people are not the ones making outlandish claims and having delusions of grandeur, I don't see where it's fair to attack them.

None of my business, but I don't recall Sue ever saying anything about any Dutchie. 

I will say that I totally agree w/Jeff's statement regarding "real" dogs who then run away w/their prize. Sure, some of that is what has been trained into them, but there is a difference and I agree that you need to be able to tell a "real" dog who has been trained to carry the sleeve, and an imposter. 

I don't think these training differences/preferences have anything to do with the dogs themselves, so to argue whose dog is tougher than whose in an argument about sports really seems futile, pointless, and just plain silly. 

I think Sue's questions about Jeff's breeding goals were valid and I had the same question, but it, too, was ignored. 

No, Jeff is right.I can't today, but sometime this week, when I can get to a computer, I will lose the Don Corleone screen name.

I'm with you Jenni, I just think it's pretty funny how freakin defensive and angry some people are getting,   and over what, I'm not even sure!!!!!

Sue, I could say the same about the OT threads! ;)

ok Jeff - if Don hasn't accomplished anything and therefore can't ask you for accountability for what YOU have done, then I should be able to.  So where is your scorebook for all of your many Schh titles you earned with dogs you have trained?  For that matter, where are the scores/results from all of the trials you have competed in, in any dog sport?

 

I sure hope I don't have to scan all 3 of the completely FULL scorebooks belonging to Eagle, the dog I bred, raised, trained and titled myself to 25X Schh3, Fh2, many-times FH including FH Champion at a National event, member of the FCI World Team.....  not to mention the several other scorebooks full of club, Regional and National event stamps from the several other dogs I trained myself....

And oh let's not forget the USA bronze, silver, gold and Master's Gold medals I earned with dogs I've trained and titled....

Nah, that would be a whole lot to read on this forum.   So where is proof you can train a dog Jeff?  Proof is in the titles, if you are in a dog sport.

Don, are you saying that's not your real name? I feel so betrayed.

Molly, no need for you to post anything, nor myself. Only the person making the claim that a sport is average and easy. If a breeder claims to produce something, I'd expect some proof. Same here.

And you would be right my darling Don Corleone !!  You still know  I am madly in love with you AND I wasn't referring to you in my last post, right?  By the way does anyone know who is the "gangsta wannabe" and who lives in their mothers basement?  This particular pissing contest is difficult to keep up with.

Sue, I'm not upset. I'm not even mad at Jeff. I'm sure someone has pissed me off on here before, but the only one I can remember is Nona. Jeff doesn't get me pissed. This is the norm for him, so the shock factor is diminished. I'm not leaving, but I will not post under DC after this week. I'd tell you I love you, but Jenni gets jealous.

So molly, you raised and trained eagle yourself ? All by yourself ? I watched a video of you working some dog and the whole time there is a guy telling you what to do and when to do it. So, where is the dog that you have trained ? LOL

I thought my goals were made pretty clear jenni from my "sport bred" (good grief you crack me up with that shit) dogs. I want to see those things I pointed out become consistant without losing anything else. I think that is enough for right now. Sorry if that doesn't seem to be enough for you and sue, and it might be something very easy to change. "MIGHT" be. Like I said, we will see in a few years. WTF am I supposed to be able to figure out from 11 week old pups as far as what I am producing at this point ? At least jenni has an excuse, she doesn't feel the need to actually read what people write. LOL

 

Don, I still challenge you to start a club and train your dog for MR3. You say there is nothing near you. Well welcome to my world. I have trained my decoys using my green dog (Buko) and lost them about every 4 to 6 months. If you insist on catching him on the arm, then you bleed. So it is not easy to keep people and it is even harder to train them to target the dog properly. 

You can say I am a crappy trainer, but really, who are you ? Where is your dog ? Kinda hard to take your opinions about anything seriously considering the lack of video showing your work. My guess is that you are probably someone who wants to hide who they are because this way you can have a contrary opinion and it doesn't come back to haunt you. I just said fuck it and trained everybody to the best of my knowledge and had a lot of people talk shit when they were NOT the ones training their dog (like molly) they had decoys and training directors and had a support system. That would be great if I wanted to do everything the way that THEY want to do it, but I do not. The club I started doing Mondio in has never produced a ring three, or a ring two. So I did my own thing and moved on.

So when you tell me that you have nothing around you, I am telling you that it has been that way for me as well. I do not train the way Mike Ellis does, and for some reason that bothers people. The one person that it doesn't bother is Mike. : )  Buko is a handful. If you, or molly think you can control him, I would be more than glad to stop by and train and you can tell me what I am doing wrong. He has been my experiment since almost day one. LOL

Sue, wrong person. 

molly, you never trained a dog by yourself in your life. Don't lie and tell stories to make yourself feel better. I am not going to be able to name that puppy eagle, as he isn't  sleeve sucking, and has some fight to him. 25x crap doesn't mean much to me.