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by Ryanhaus on 03 June 2015 - 11:06
SG Lucky von Ryanhaus TT Natural stack<OFA Good Hips & Elbows
Lucky protection training
G Roland Glen Fingers von Ryanhaus SP CGC CD HIC TDI TT TC AD BH OFA>Good Hips & Elbows
Rollie with the helper Mike Harrington
G Oeht ein Guter Sohn Sein @ Ryanhaus CGC HIC TT AD BH OFA>Fair Hips & Elbows
Oeht enjoying protection
Mostly DDR bloodlines in these guys
by BlackthornGSD on 03 June 2015 - 13:06
Black & tan working lines -- they are out there. Just have to look a little harder. T-Rex v Kriegerhaus is one of them. Someone I know just had a litter out of Gordon v Kellnerhof.
My black/tan dogs right now all have the black recessive, so they are not saddle backed. Here are two of my black/tan "yearlings" --
Christine
by Jyl on 03 June 2015 - 16:06
Blackthorn and Mirasmom,
Beautiful dogs... very nice conformation. I always have liked your dogs.
However, the OP was looking for german showline only.
by BlackthornGSD on 04 June 2015 - 00:06
Yes, and the discussion moved on page 9 to black/tan working lines.
by alienor on 04 June 2015 - 04:06
by Hundmutter on 04 June 2015 - 11:06
@mirasmom - LOVE that pic of the ever-photogenic
Oeht with his snowball nose !
by TIG on 05 June 2015 - 02:06
Note I agree w/ 27 27 comments.
OP the dogs you want are still out there w/ small very dedicated hobby breeders who work their own dogs. They are NOT backyard breeders and do not keep multiple dogs and bitches ( Big red flag of a commerical outfit). You need to go to trials and obedience trials and herding trials and check on SAR dogs and other active working dogs. Look at the SG and V rated dogs in the German system - NOT the VA. Look at the V rated working lines.
Here's a gorgeous stable dog I just met -much more handsome person than the photo shows.http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2078782-astor-v-d-borkse-ranch go to his breeders sitehttp://www.borkseranch.nl/ and take a look at the dogs ( and note you can see who's home just looking in the eyes)
This is his mom, a new schh1 http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=664601-dartel-van-het-burgerbosch-oase
Meanwhile in this country you may want to start with these two links and research the dog and their progeny
http://www.gsdca.org/german-shepherd-dogs/gsd-title-holders/700-annual-training-achievement-awards
https://www.gsdca.org/german-shepherd-dogs/gsd-title-holders/593-performance-award-of-merit-pam
The first link honors the producers of working and trained dogs. Most sires and dams are themselves accomplished in a number of venues. the last link honors versatile dogs. They must be titled in 3 different areas ( ex tracking, obedience and herding) and at least one title has to be at the highest level for that sport ( ex ud or Sch3 or Herding Excellent etc)
BTW many of the folks w/ the kind of dogs I am talking about often do not have web sites. As noted above they are too busy working dogs. A glossy web site has nothing to do w/ the quality of the dogs.
My advice is to start local and go to every kind of dog event you can and ask ask ask and LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN. Just a note one of the best dogs I ever bred to I found when I went to pickup fish and chips on a friday nite (NE catholic thing). He was waiting patiently in his owners car and I went in the shop(only business in a residential neighborhood) and called out who owns the GSD - walla. His owner was a German doctor living in this country and this was in the days even before schuthund trials in this country and way before the sv shows so his owner did not participate in American shows tho he did continue to train his dogs.
by TIG on 05 June 2015 - 02:06
For those who might be interested, each fall the GSD Review the official publication of the GSDCA publishes a performance issue (can be the Sept, Oct or Nov issue you have to ask) which lists the top twentyfive of current ATAA holders and a cumulative list of all sires and dams abov certain point level.The top ten current dogs get a half page that lists the progeny that contributed points that year and their titles New PAM's also get half a page with their picture and titles that qualified them for the PAM.
As designed it was supposed to be similiar to what they did for ROM dogs with a whole page for new qualifiers and a full cumulative list of all dogs who qualified under the guidelines but unfortunately performance is still the bastard child at the GSDCA tho these days it funds their national and the publication of titleholders from the AKC is 10-12 Champions and 3-5 pages of performance titles ( YEAH For all who do it)
by xbitetab on 05 June 2015 - 04:06
Queen von der Held
Kara Gretchen von Bairdhaus http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=1333731-karamarie-gretchentoo-von-bairdhaus Dam of my new puppy Baudin vom Springhaus
Texas Rex von Lippian http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=698851-texas-rex-vom-lippian Sire
by xbitetab on 05 June 2015 - 04:06
Tex in Motion
Tex and Kara Both dogs train with Bowie County SAR
Kara's sister Kiera von Bairdhaus placed HIT in IPO at NASS last year
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