Kennel Club press release - Page 9

Alyson and I have been talking to a lot of people and it seems that most gleen any info they can from e mails being circulated or from on here. It would also appear that there IS things going on behind the scenes that we (the club members) are not aware of. A lot of the GSD clubs do have websites so could I respectfully ask that maybe something is posted on the homepage of the club websites to advise members what is going on, for example....letters going out to members, committee meeting called to discuss KC letter, EGM to be called  etc etc. People need to know things are happening otherwise we all just end upo getting frustrated with the whole matter.
PS Great idea about regional meetings, Aileen had basically offered to co ordinate the Scottish clubs, I am sure others would help too. We really must show a united front.

Hi Shirley not read all the thread yet so unsure if you have been answered, but you said; Some time ago I contacted the German SV to see if I could register my pups with them as I was so disgusted with the KC and was told that it is FCI rules that pups should be registered in the country of residence of the breeder. I wonder if this stands even though our country does not seem to have a FCI recognised body?
This is in a 'Letter of Understanding between the FCI and the KC'
www.fci.be/uploaded_files/Accord%20Kennel%20Club,%20May%202009_2pages.pdf
see section 3 needless to say I can not find this document on the KC site, they probably do not want us to be aware of it.
Pam

Hi Babs
Yes what annoyed me most was it was 2months after I imported the Chodsky which any pups were going to be registered with the CMKU, I am still looking for a loophole any suggestions welcome.
My first thought when I saw this letter earlier last year was the fiasco with the talks between various parties and the KC was the GSD, as also elsewhere we had been discusing registering Kennel names with the FCI rather than the KC.
Pam

There has been approximately 25 different contributors to this thread with one or two coming from abroad. One thing is clear and that is there is no plan, or, blueprint in place for the future if people break away from the KC. This is something that should have been in place from day one of the negotiations with the KC and always been a work in progress. Many contributors who have come to the forums here with puffed up chests about what they would do and what should be done are noticeable by their absence from this thread. The number of people contributing here are a spit in the old bucket in relation to the numbers of breeders/exhibitors. For me, there has been no leader come forward to take the breed on, if, and when, a split occurs and put together a committee who would be followed by the majority needed to bring about a successful split. Can anyone put forward three names to do that job in a competent manner? If a split does occur how many will follow? Worse still, how many will slip back to the KC as time goes by with their tail between their legs. Judging from this forum showing and C.C’s, red cards are the priority and not what is best for the sake of the breed itself. Any split from the KC must incorporate so much more than the show scene. As Peterlee ably pointed out the KC can do as it wishes which is something not understood by either our negotiators and the belligerents on this forum. Personally, I would support any movement that can successfully make a division from the KC succeed because I think that would be in the best interests of our breed. The KC know that what they have put forward on a take it or leave it basis is unacceptable but it is an instrument in getting rid of those people that they deem undesirable, or, making them toe the KC line. To just rush around and arrange meetings is just not enough, that is only talk which may, or, may not lead to positive action.

Mackenzie

Makenzie, I object to your negative attitude to what is on this Thread so far.  I personally put the Plan B on this Forum many months before this and no one took on board.  I sent it to the GSDP and the Breed Council in September and they did not acknowledge receipt of it, but it will now be published in the Breed Council Magazine after I chased this matter up today.

I consider my Plan B Document to be a POSITIVE STEP in the right direction and the Meetings suggest are not JUST TALK, they are another positive step forward.

A breakaway DOES INCORPORATE MORE THAN SHOWING DOGS, a lot of Clubs train for more than just the Show Ring and some of these Clubs will not want to stay with the KC under their bully boy tactics.  There are Schutzhund and all it entails and Obedience and Tracking in some Clubs and they will automatically bring that with them. 

The British Sieger now requires that the Adult Dogs/Bitches have a Good Citizens Test for entry to these Classes and anyone who has done or is training for that can easily adapt these tests into their Club.  We do not need the KC to show us how it is done.

Many, many enthusiasts have so much to offer and this time I think the steps forward will be bigger than you imagine, I am sure there will be no BACK TRACKING this time.

As I said if any Club wants to stay with the KC then so be it, it is their choice and it is the choice of the owners of GSDs to make their own choice also.

There is absolutely no reason that many could not keep their dogs registered with the KC, but still join a New System - what can they do to stop us being in both boats?  If you join the New Club/System the information registered and gained by that system does not have to be disclosed to the Kennel Club, they have no right to ask for it and as they will no longer be issuing Licences to the New Club/System they have no need to know the details.

Everyone who has a dog registered with the KC can leave it as it is as this is all it is A REGISTRATION SYSTEM.  No one has to be forced to do anything they do not want to, but it is everyone's RIGHT TO HAVE A CHOICE in what way they go.

As has been said many times - WE CAN HAVE OUR CAKE AND EAT IT.  What is to stop any owner etc taking part in any KC Show if their dog is registered, they can tow the line at these Shows if they want, but I don't see them wanting to attend any KC Events anyway.

Regards
Aileen