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by Donald Deluxe on 28 June 2011 - 04:06

"Door to door, killing every dog whether it was a pet, stray, or show dog. Your dog was vaccinated, a superb show dog, and pampered in the house, never outside without its owner; didn't matter it was still dead."

Utter nonsense.  The authorities did round up and kill stray dogs and those who were out in public without proof of vaccination during a rabies outbreak that killed hundreds of people.  Apparently you'd be happier if more people had died instead.

steve1

by steve1 on 28 June 2011 - 05:06

The problem is that the Chinese eat Dogs, Now they cannot put them to sleep with an injection because they would be unable to eat them. I would think by now they are quite capable of stunning a dog or even killing it with one blow.i do not think it would suffer to much that way. I would guess at most times the animal is killed very quickly they may beat it afterwards to try and tenderize the meat. it is a practice that needs to stop but it has been there culture for so long it is not going to be easy
Would i export dogs to China, Yes, to a reputable person, There are places in this world where i would not export Dogs and one is the USA but for another reason, nothing to do with the Chinese way of handling dogs
Steve1

by missyjord on 28 June 2011 - 07:06

Utter nonsense? I only wish it were! Here's some links, check the facts yourself. http://www.chinasmack.com/2009/stories/yangxian-county-shaanxi-china-kills-every-dog.html. http://articles.sfgate.com/2006-08-09/bay-area/17305472_1_bird-flu-dogs-flu-epidemic. As stated in the article "dogs were lured out and clubbed to death". China's government thought that the best course of action despite the people's wishes. Also from the information I've received it was 20 people that died, NOT hundreds. Could my information be wrong? Possibly, but until I see proof otherwise ill stick by the information I've gathered.

by trac123 on 28 June 2011 - 07:06


It was the Canine Food Festival last weekend in Yulin, Eastern China. Over 15,000 dogs were eaten.See MailOnline. All the carcases were skinned, and the article showed basketfulls (and I mean full, and crammed) of dogs awaiting their fate) and at least 2 were German Shepherds. The pain and torture is the same for all the dogs, however. Attempts to justify this are very strange and inhuman.
This is NOT the same as a Western animal slaughterhouse

steve1

by steve1 on 28 June 2011 - 08:06

trac123
it is no good trying to preach to others the rights and wrongs that go on, i bet you are still only young and i also bet that you have not seen this torture happening in real life,
Well i have not dogs but i have seen similar things done to humans and that is just as bad well it seemed to be so at the time.
We all know it is a barbaric thing but it is up to the Governments of this world to put pressure on these people, even then i do not see it changing much It has been going on so long now. and it is a way of life with a lot of these people, We do not know there circumstances regards work and trying to live themselves so how can they be judged, Okay the only other way of killing these for human consumption is to use a Knife or a Bullet. The normal person as they are have no other ways
All this talk on this forum will do no good at all. However trac123 you may help a little by going over there and protesting against these practices in person that may help
Steve1

by Annie on 28 June 2011 - 11:06

Somewhere on this thread it mentions about Greyhounds being killed when their racing careers are over. My kennelmaid (Clare)  has asked me to put her comments on here about that. Her and her husband were Greyhound Trainers here in the UK. They trained many dogs for different Owners as well as their own dogs. They have finished racing, but have not put any of their dogs or their clients dogs to sleep. In fact one client said if his dogs could not be trained by Clare and her husband he would pack in racing. But, he has left the dogs in their care and pays for their keep.  Clare had one of her dogs badly injured racing. Any other owner/trainer may have put the dog to sleep, but she spent all her savings on having her dog operated on by a specialist Vet and kept the dog in the house as her pet. She currently has six Greyhounds living in the house plus at least four more who live in their kennels. She and her husband love all their dogs and look after them really well. They are still walked every day and cared for superbly, as are their Client's retired dogs.

by Donald Deluxe on 28 June 2011 - 14:06

"Attempts to justify this are very strange and inhuman."

I've yet to read anyone justifying the eating of dogs.  What is being discussed is whether people would sell German Shepherd Dogs to China, knowing that some Chinese people do in fact eat dogs and/or raise them for their fur.

Abby Normal

by Abby Normal on 28 June 2011 - 17:06

DD
No that wasn't the question. The question was would you export to China knowing that dogs there are treated inhumanely (skinning alive) and that there are no animal welfare laws in place there. Very different.

You know full well that the welfare organisations referred to are not PETA, they are a different kettle of fish. I believe you are just being argumentative for the sake of it, trolling if you like. Rather than doing that why do you just not present your rationale 'for' exporting dogs to China.



by trac123 on 28 June 2011 - 19:06


To Steve 1.......I am 71 years old (still young?!) and have travelled to many countries around the world, including several on the African, Asian and European continents. Want me to list them all - even I think that would be rather boring for everybody and would prove NOTHING!
I would not export to countries with no animal anti-cruelty laws. I only breed a litter about every 2 years or so now.

Raul

by Raul on 28 June 2011 - 20:06

U.S.A. has animal welfare law but the shelters are full of dogs,  killed millions of dogs already by poisoning and eventually becomes toxic in the environment. And a lot of these dogs are direct descendants of once loved dogs. People in China and Korea slaughter dogs for human consumption. Who is right or wrong here?





 


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