Unsoundness in the modern day German Shepherd Dog - Page 7

Changer I agree. Modern GSD is much heavier. Here is what the creator of the GSD believed GSD should look like

I bet you he could jump  but  nobody would buy dog like that today.  That is why I have put there above  a picture of the wolf jumping.
No Praetorian we do not want to breed a wolf. (And by the way Hyena is not a Canis Lupus, where wolf and dogs are:)) .But we should learn from wolf. Wolf is perfect in structure for endurance and agility and GSD suppose to be "natural looking" dog.  This Klodo v Boxberg is much closer to perfect structure of the wolf then the dogs we are breeding today.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

Nice picture on page 2 Sue.


Re unsoundness as I have stated elsewhere and Babs and John have pointed out unsoundness does not equal a physical structural problem that you can see with the eye, likewise an unsound dog that has physical health conditions can move well.
for example this quote from the BVA about ED: Lameness is not a good indicator of elbow status and many dogs with ED do not show signs of lameness (ie they are affected sub clinically). Dogs with sub clinical ED are more likely to produce clinically affected (lame) progeny than dogs with normal elbows.  (BVA 2010)

Physical unsoundness is not just lameness caused by orthopedical defects, but also and not less importantly, by the structural violations of the natural laws which are obeyed by animals in the nature. Thay are forced to obey these laws or they will not survive. People on the other hand protect warped, self serving  fads. I know that the wolf on the picture above is scrawny. But look  at it, it  is just about a perfect square. Some people's ideas of sloping backs and over angulation is detrimental to the breed. GSD is a NATURAL breed. Max von Stephanitz never intended the mutants which I have posted above.
Arys z Travnickova dvora.  There is a natural structure. Can you estimate if  this dog could jump, run or heard( if he neded to)  all day?
 Square is a most eficient shape. Race horse, greyhound, husky, wolf, cheetah.....

Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

i,m waiting to see wot the kc have to say and how they intend to eradicate this SUPPOSED  afflication in MOST of the germanic type shepherd at this meeting on friday.i reckon if THEY THE KC ,dont manage it they,ll lay the blame firmly on the exhibitors as usual.will we hear about the meeting or will we only find out when it suits the kc.in my view there should be an annoucement made in the dog press outlining wot was said etc.Carole S.

Unsoundness in the Modern GSD : interesting that tin his topic ... no one has addressed in regards to the GSD the behavioral attributes contributinfg to the soundness / unsoundness of the GSD  and the  Health  factors too !!. /// Form goes hand in hand with Function .. both are an equality in importance .. Why htis thread limitted to the just the form / viual ??  Please share your views / comments/ experiences in the other aspects constituting SOUNDNESS - I personally am interested in the forum's outlooks.

Alphapup

Do you meaning soundness in mind ?

sorry for thr typo's ][obviuosly i can't type] - i am referring to the innate or the lack of innate genetic predispositions that make or don't make the GSD what it should or should not be. for example .. stress levels [ the standard states the dog should have courage] ,  -- or the dilution of genetic traits ... hardness , ability to perfrom certain tasks required of the breed. aggresssion or over aggression . etc.. this is genetic and based in biophysiology . Also the second comment.. what do you all see the GSD in regards to the overall health of the breed ?