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Jackal73

by Jackal73 on 24 December 2009 - 02:12

 Except for the bigotry expressed this is a very interesting thread.

I've had this discussion myself, as I live in a fairly ethnically diverse neighborhood, and have neighbors who are Muslim (and immigrants like myself).  Some are deathly afraid of my dog.  Others are merely wary.  And then I've had a couple tell me off in the park for having a dog, because they're unclean.  They were a little shocked when I responded that that rule about unclean made sense in a particular cultural context -- the pariah dogs that eat garbage and are riddled with disease definitely *are* unclean and to be avoided.  Every year hundreds of people die from rabies in the developing world because animals are unvaccinated and transmit the disease through bites. Then I added that my dog isn't fed garbage, and is vaccinated, so he isn't a vector for transmitting disease.  And then I add that *my* culture -- and the one we're all currently living in -- doesn't prohibit keeping dogs.   And the conversation stalls there.

I would still prefer it if my neighbors weren't scared stiff on encountering me walking the dog in public, but there's nothing I can do about it if they won't approach us and learn that he's not vicious.  I'd also like to be able to address their more theological issues with dog keeping, so I've been very interested in the comments here.

Xeph

by Xeph on 24 December 2009 - 07:12

They OFFEND me, coming to other countries and demanding everyone kow tow to their bogus bs.

Evangelical Christians offend me because they do the same thing.  You know what I do?  Ignore them.  I've had incredibly WONDERFUL muslim friends.  You know what makes them wonderful?  They're not crazy bastards.

To Hamza, this is actually a really interesting and worthwhile friend, and to Adi, THANK YOU for all the information :D  It's been very enlightening.

hamza166

by hamza166 on 24 December 2009 - 12:12

Freemont: Dogs are not considered unclean. It is jsut, that you cannot let them enter the room that you are going to pray in.

Sitasmom: They kinda follow both, but mostly the Quran.

Adi Ibrahimbegovic: I wasnt aware that the prophet had a dog hiself. That again slightly changesmy view

Xeph: yes thatis true. They think that they tower over us, and rule us, but in fact, 1/2 the stuff they knwo or have, originates from us Muslims, if we wer not there, they would be even stupider than they currently are.

What i said to Xeph, does not go to all Christians , as some are veyr kind & helpful, as well as respectful. However there are some twerps, who think they are all that, and in fact ae useless idiots. This goes to the useless idiots.

Another question i wish to ask now, is why the hell, have some of you twerps started something about Muslim terrorists, and osama on this board? Thsi is about Muslims owning dogs, NOT TERRORISTS
 
Another Thing: Some of you are very respectful, and kind as well as helpful. I appreciate & like these kind of people. They are a great addition to the society. However then there are complete ingnorant idiots, who have no respect for anythin. They should be destroyed.

I will speak to my Imam, on Friday, and note to you on Saturday, and then on Tuesday, i will have a proper discussion with him, as he is free then & so am i, and will post ont his about it again.


darylehret

by darylehret on 24 December 2009 - 15:12

For you to take the word "FORBADE", and interpret it to mean "SUGGESTION" seems to me as "RADICAL".

darylehret

by darylehret on 24 December 2009 - 15:12

Another Thing: Some of you are very respectful, and kind as well as helpful. I appreciate & like these kind of people. They are a great addition to the society. However then there are complete ingnorant idiots, who have no respect for anythin. They should be destroyed.
Guess you've made my point twice  now.

ronin

by ronin on 24 December 2009 - 15:12

For Hamza; you have restored my faith in you. Apart from the normal tripe you come up with this is an excellent topic, and a brave subject that could never be raised by a non Muslim.

The issue with ALL religions is the interpretation, Christianity is a classic, I am a cultural Christian i.e. I don't go to church or worship but loosely follow the rules, generally enjoying Xmas and easter Holidays, many Muslims, Sikhs etc are also cultural as opposed to practicing,they follow the traditions for weddings,births, deaths, probably because of community expectations and what the family want etc.

How many Roman Catholics do you know that throw live cats and goats of church towers, stone birds to death as part of their celebrations....none.  However this is a common occurrence in one nearby Christian country. There is a tribe in Iran (Muslim) renowned over thousands of years for the large guard dogs they produce. Geo graphics play a huge part in how religions are applied. China has more Muslims than all the countries put together but their cultures are different again.

I have read the Prophet kept nine cats, he loved them, I work in Slough yet I have yet to me any Asian families with cats, can't explain that.

GSD rule your out burst which I no doubt you regret is do with the weight of political correctness in this country.

These forums should allow the world to be a better place, thanks to the contributions of Hamza and more so ADI my stereotypes and preconceptions have changed for the better.

Ronin

by VomMarischal on 24 December 2009 - 17:12

Ronin,
Uh, no. That outburst was so NOT politically correct in the US. It's just a tiny, fractious, and scary minority.

hamza166

by hamza166 on 24 December 2009 - 17:12

Darylehret: I guess i have made your point 2x. Oh well the more the merrier.

Ronin: Thank you, i am glad i have restored your faith in me. I thank you greatly. And yes, there are loose versins of the religions, so they ofte don't follow minor rules.

Mystere

by Mystere on 24 December 2009 - 18:12

THANK YOU , Hamza, for the topic.  I did not realize that you are only 13.  Extraordinary!!   Your behavior on this board is so much more mature than that of say, the intolerant idiots ranting so often.   Your parents should be proud.  

Please do let us know what your imam says.  Learning is valued by most of the people on this forum and this is certainly not something we can learn "just anywhere."   


Salaam

GSDSRULE

by GSDSRULE on 24 December 2009 - 19:12

Another question i wish to ask now, is why the hell, have some of you twerps started something about Muslim terrorists, and osama on this board? Thsi is about Muslims owning dogs, NOT TERRORISTS

Another Thing: Some of you are very respectful, and kind as well as helpful. I appreciate & like these kind of people. They are a great addition to the society. However then there are complete ingnorant idiots, who have no respect for anythin. They should be destroyed.


I never said anything about terrorists, you nitwit.  I said your religion sucks and so do the brainwashed cavemen that follow it.

Is it terrorists that refuse to pick up passengers with dogs in the taxis they drive?  Is it terrorists that DEMAND prayer rooms in public places, when other religions can't even be mentioned?  Is it terrorists that run over and kill their daughters for being too
"westernized?"  So why do these freaks come here?  What is their motive?  "Honor" killings?  What a crock of misogynst shit.

So anybody that doesn't like your religion should be DESTROYED?  Well, thanks, you little prick, for making me right.

And to Ronin, I don't regret putting my opinion on here at all.
Von Marischal, don't be so damn sure my opinion is the minority. 
 






 


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