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Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 30 August 2010 - 15:08

This is such a pointless discussion, Jackie, Jeff, Lee, Cliff, Kelly, et al. No one with this mentality will EVER see what we already know because they don't have the balls (just wanted to add some more classless language lol) to DEAL with a dog who needs any of what we're talking about. They'd rather do the right thing and give it the needle, all while shaking their heads sadly and wondering what's become of the breed.

What's become of the breed is that it's in the hands of sissies. Rather than buck up and learn how to handle a real dog firmly but fairly, they'd rather use pathetic specimens for breeding and PTS the rare real dogs that crop up occasionally despite their best efforts. These are the people who encouraged me to breed; I can hardly find what I want anymore so it's time to produce it myself.

Feather........you cannot be serious. Ever moved something with your foot? Ever kicked someone under a table to get their attention non-verbally? Ridiculous basis for a thread.

I don't know how old Yoshy is exactly but what if he is 23? Why is it some people are so closed-minded that they can't understand they may have been doing it WRONG for 40 or 50 years???

by GSDdrive1 on 30 August 2010 - 17:08

Jenni78,

Nice post. This really is an excersize in futility. There is nothing anyone can say that is going to convince Feather to change his point of view. Experience is the only thing that will change his mind, specifically the kind of experience that is described by many obviously knowlegeable people on this thread.

And for anyone who thinks that age makes a difference in your knowledge base, or for that matter maturity level, should take a look at video of Samantha Jimenez (Age 7) with Hesy Naspo at the 2010 Working Dog Championship. Search youtube for Samantha Jimenez and you will find both her protection and obedience routines.


by Jeff Oehlsen on 30 August 2010 - 17:08

 Every time you do not respond to a retard like Feather, and point out how stupid they are over and over again, then the retards win.

THere is always someone out there shopping for opinions. There is always people that will take what feather the retard said as actual fact, and God's honest truth.

THis is why you waste time and point out that there are retards out there. This person didn't want a discussion, just wanted to show how cruel Sch was. 

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 30 August 2010 - 20:08

Feather........you cannot be serious. Ever moved something with your foot? Ever kicked someone under a table to get their attention non-verbally? Ridiculous basis for a thread.


Well, what gives threads like this credibility are incidents like this:  www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/407111.html


Unfortunately, there ARE people out there who don't know where to draw the line between a forceful correction on a hard dog, and out and out abuse.

by Jeff Oehlsen on 30 August 2010 - 20:08

 Quote: 
Well, what gives threads like this credibility are incidents like this:

So, by your way of thinking, every gun owner is a mass murderer. Every person that has kitchen knife set is jack the ripper, every person that ever gets mad at someone is a killer. 1 guy out of how may pet owners ?? WHat would that percetage look like ?? LOL 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%

That thread gives no credibility at all to anything.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 30 August 2010 - 21:08

Jeff, I agree. I did respond; I'm just pointing out that we will never convince Feather. The reason I respond to many "pointless" threads is for the exact reason you mention. There are MANY lurkers here reading every thread, trying desperately to learn. Not presenting a conflicting viewpoint does a disservice to all. I have had many PMs asking why I bother on some threads (usually involving Pit Bulls...or Jeff Oehlsen, LMAO). That's why. Because Joe Newbie will benefit and not think that the Feathers of the world are proclaiming the gospel.

by Jeff Oehlsen on 30 August 2010 - 21:08

 Most of my PM's are about how hot you are, and how stupid you are about dogs. What can I say ? I guess pretty faces and big boobs win out everytime

by VomMarischal on 30 August 2010 - 21:08

The Feathers make me make that head-back gurglie noise Homer Simpson makes when he's dreaming of doughnuts. Motivation is different, but the noise is the same.

Forums have to try to give them more than just a little bit of knowlege, which is a dangerous thing, duh. For example, my brother showed up the other day explaining to me in idiot internet language why he thought a working dog <read: GSD> would be too much for his family...to high maintenance. So he went out and bought a pair of border collies.

Gurglie noise ensuing.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 30 August 2010 - 22:08

Jackie, you've got a point! You never want to educate a fool, LOL. A pair of Border Collies??? LMAO.

Jeff......huh. Interesting dichotomy. *I* always get people telling me that they're shocked I'm not horrifyingly scary looking  because I'm smart about dogs. It's all about perspective, Jeffy.

by Jeff Oehlsen on 31 August 2010 - 01:08

 Quote: Jeff......huh. Interesting dichotomy. *I* always get people telling me that they're shocked I'm not horrifyingly scary looking because I'm smart about dogs. It's all about perspective, Jeffy.

They have seen your picture, and want to touch your monkey. I guess you have yet to figure out that most guys will say anything to get into a girls pants.  HA HA. or should I say south of the border ? With laser intensity ? : )

I think the pair of border collies is going to be a great experience for him. After all, EVERYONE knows all about dogs, just ask them.





 


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