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by melba on 30 August 2010 - 19:08
Sable is the black tip and banding of the guard hairs. It is not the undercoat that makes a sable a sable.
I would very much like to see some pictures of him Ace. I am by no means an expert, but it doesn't really sound like sable?? I am the last person that will ever claim to be an expert. LOL
Melissa
I would very much like to see some pictures of him Ace. I am by no means an expert, but it doesn't really sound like sable?? I am the last person that will ever claim to be an expert. LOL
Melissa
by LadyFrost on 30 August 2010 - 19:08
mudwick....hand down most gorgeous color on a dog i ever seen...she did look like she got lighter and then darker....does it vary w/ season also?
by Myracle on 30 August 2010 - 19:08
It most certainly does. She's lighter in the summer, when her coat is thinner.
Less hair = less black tips to give her that dark coloring.
Her color is best mid-winter.
Her sire, another red pointed dark black agouti, with pencilling and tarheels [and that damned faulty white splotch, not visable in this picture]:
And her dam, slightly less red coloration to her, but equally dark. She has penciling, but I don't recall if she has tarheels or not:
Less hair = less black tips to give her that dark coloring.
Her color is best mid-winter.
Her sire, another red pointed dark black agouti, with pencilling and tarheels [and that damned faulty white splotch, not visable in this picture]:
And her dam, slightly less red coloration to her, but equally dark. She has penciling, but I don't recall if she has tarheels or not:
by LadyFrost on 30 August 2010 - 19:08
mudwick..i am sure you have winder and summer photos..can we see them back to back to compare?
by aceofspades on 30 August 2010 - 19:08
There are photos of Ace on the my 2 year old and my 3 month old thread that I have posted.
His guard hairs still haven't come in on his legs. Maybe he won't be a sable. I'm half expecting him to be some sort of sable based on siblings from other litters. I'm pretty sure he won't stay black (I guess he isn't ALL black, he has the faulty white patch on his chest, which seems to be getting smaller....or he's getting bigger...lol). I had an old male that was a grey sable. Didn't love his markings at all, but with all of the gorgeous sables I have been seeing here I've really begun to rethink the sable colouring. I find myself especially drawn to the Czech sables.
His guard hairs still haven't come in on his legs. Maybe he won't be a sable. I'm half expecting him to be some sort of sable based on siblings from other litters. I'm pretty sure he won't stay black (I guess he isn't ALL black, he has the faulty white patch on his chest, which seems to be getting smaller....or he's getting bigger...lol). I had an old male that was a grey sable. Didn't love his markings at all, but with all of the gorgeous sables I have been seeing here I've really begun to rethink the sable colouring. I find myself especially drawn to the Czech sables.
by YogieBear on 30 August 2010 - 19:08
Very nice pics - keep them coming - Just a question - in your opinion - what makes the "Pattern Sable" pattern sable? I don't see how to determine to call it this..
Melba - I have been told the same thing - about the pattern sable - with b/t... My bitch is the granddaughter to the picture I posted - she is black/red - I have always said that she was out of two sables - but since I am uneducated on Sables - I have been corrected to now understand that her parents were more than likely pattern sables and that is how a majestic saddle b/red came out of them...
Yogie
Melba - I have been told the same thing - about the pattern sable - with b/t... My bitch is the granddaughter to the picture I posted - she is black/red - I have always said that she was out of two sables - but since I am uneducated on Sables - I have been corrected to now understand that her parents were more than likely pattern sables and that is how a majestic saddle b/red came out of them...
Yogie
by Myracle on 30 August 2010 - 19:08
Certainly, LF.
Summer [notice how much grey undercoat shows through]:
First snow, before her coat was really in:
Deep into winter. Thick, full coat:
Summer [notice how much grey undercoat shows through]:
First snow, before her coat was really in:
Deep into winter. Thick, full coat:
by melba on 30 August 2010 - 19:08
Mudwick,
That's V Lux vom Kameruner Eck, is it not? Very nice! I'd know him anywhere.
Ace,
I'll go and have a looksie. LOL
Melissa
That's V Lux vom Kameruner Eck, is it not? Very nice! I'd know him anywhere.
Ace,
I'll go and have a looksie. LOL
Melissa
by Myracle on 30 August 2010 - 19:08
Yup, that's Lux. That picture hardly does him justice- he's a very impressive dog in person.
Seems to do a good job of passing along his good pigment, too.
Seems to do a good job of passing along his good pigment, too.
by Myracle on 30 August 2010 - 20:08
Ace, your dog is a black and tan.
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