People are screwing the breed! Zara von der Zenteiche VA with ruined hips? - Page 1

People are screwing the breed!

Apparently, it doesn't matter what kind of hips these dogs have,
if you got the right connections and enough influence towards the members of the SV-board (you might for instance be an SV-judge yourself), then you can still make a VA-dog out of a dog with ruined hips.

Zara von der Zenteiche started off with a hip-status of HD3 = NZ (still admissible). She should have been banned from any breeding programm, at least that is what the Vet said.

Strangely enough, a while later, she received an altered hip-status: HD-normal and even ran VA in 2010, thus being chosen amongst the Happy Few = the best of the breed.
Who is cheating who?

The whole story soon!!

Abbreviated hip chart from "Canine Hip Dysplasia and Other Orthopedic Disorders" by Fred Lanting

This book is very informative, and an excellent reference.

She must have liver and blue in her background for this to happen!

No this is for real!

See, the real Zara went to China and a copy was sent back to Germany. The Chinese didn't quite get her reverse engineering just right. (You know how those Chinese copies can be, not quite up to par with the Germans.) Just look at the BMW they tried to copy. Here's a link;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtM9Cax-kgE

As you can see this is ruining the breed. Something has to be done about this!

Thanks for another post of accusations with no information to back it up. We all await your whole story, probably second hand from someone who bought a puppy from a friend of the breeders vet's sister in law. Please include how the ZW system is manipulated too.

There are very few areas in life that one will not encounter people without integrity. Banks, businesses,mortgage lenders, governments, churches and dogs. They are all run by humans. And I make no judgment on this accusation.

I guess if everyone had come from the organization that I came from, much of this would seem minor.

Got a dog that won't certify, no problem, run a ringer in for x-rays. Got a good dog with a missing testicle, bad tail, bad elbows, no problem. Minor surgical procedures. Missing teeth, no problem.

Can't get around the ring without limping, no problem, that's what arthritis drugs are for.

Got a dog so spooky that it won't stand for exam, no problem. that's what downers are for. Got a dog with poor color, no problem, that's what tea bags and henna are for.

Do I think the SV is perfect, no I'm not stupid. Do I think it is far superior, as an organization to promote the GSD, than any I have been involved with. Well, yes I do.  

Bob Mc. on another thread made one of the most profound statements I have seen put into words. "It is up to the breeder of the GSD to protect the integrity of the GSD". There is no organization in the world who will do it for you.

JMO,
Rik

Dog1, you are probably the only one on this forum who doesn't seem to know yet that I never put down a word without full back-up. And your comment, how hilarious it may be, is not appropriate, when the breed is being ruined to a degree you might not even imagine.

I have the letter of the Dr. Vet. Bodo Schäfer from 56626 Andernach in my posession. He took the initiative to write to the SV, and make a statement, pointing out that a "mittlere HD"-result (from VA 8 Zara von der Zenteiche) could never magically transfer into the HD-result: NORMAL!!

As it is mighty clear the result of Zara was tampered / faked / manipulated (or how do we describe this), he required another screening.
Strangely enough (or: "as was to be expected within the SV"??), one didn't do a da** thing.
The owner of the dog, Christoph Ludwig, is, of course, an SV-judge, and who cares about a little HD when the dog can run for VA?? The friends around judge Meyer are all in this together!

Pretty soon now, the dog will disappear from the showring, but Zara will have offspring.
And people buying that offspring will wonder why their beautiful dog has got ruined hips and has to be put to sleep.
"She was one of the best of breed, da* it!!"

It's becoming a huge mess at the top, and nobody seems to care.
If there is any doubt about the HD-result of any VA-dog, a neutral commission must prove what is true and what is not.

I dare anyone to put Zara on the table and screen her hips. Then we will see if she deserves a VA-title!

Jantie,

Perhaps you should post the facts before you write something about them. It would add much more credibility to your open statements. So where's the letter? It sounds like there were two sets of x rays. The first one that looked as if it may have been tampered with, how did the second set look?  What are the dates? Have you ever taken 3 sets of x rays and had one set look better than the others?

You may have some valid points but as usual, no one will ever really know as there are only open ended accusations citing a circumstance here or there and insinuating wrong doings. In the end, there's a logical explanation.

Remember your last post with all the judges in the crowd at the Chinese sieger show, yet the results were the same in China as they were in Germany.

this crap happens in america with top show dogs, health problems are covered up, and temperment faults have excuses made for them.  you really find it amazing that this also happens in the SV? 

its always been and will always be about ego,  $$$ and politics.