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by Jenni78 on 08 March 2011 - 20:03
Silbersee, I remember. There was a post about a similar situation where I said "they walk among us" or something similar" and Hodie questioned me. So, I posted about Wackjob, then you and I don't remember who else confirmed that, and then it went totally nuts from there because Hodie apologized and said she did remember her and the incident from years back, she just hadn't remembered the screename- probably new anyway!
Jackie, email me or call me. Number's on the website. Those dogs ARE NOT HERS!!! Not only that, but a few are just about the last of certain bloodlines and I'd really hate for them to end up PTS due to being deemed unadoptable.
ANYONE WHO KNOWS WHAT OTHER DOGS WERE THERE AND WHO ELSE OWNS DOGS THAT JANICE CONNED INTO "LENDING" TO HER FOR HER "NON-PROFIT PROGRAM" PLEASE EMAIL ME ASAP.
Jackie, email me or call me. Number's on the website. Those dogs ARE NOT HERS!!! Not only that, but a few are just about the last of certain bloodlines and I'd really hate for them to end up PTS due to being deemed unadoptable.
ANYONE WHO KNOWS WHAT OTHER DOGS WERE THERE AND WHO ELSE OWNS DOGS THAT JANICE CONNED INTO "LENDING" TO HER FOR HER "NON-PROFIT PROGRAM" PLEASE EMAIL ME ASAP.
by Donald Deluxe on 08 March 2011 - 20:03
Imagine that, Jackie. Guess that's as close to a mea culpa as you and Sock Puppet will ever get from her for defending Bartmess. I was raised to admit when I f'ed up, but maybe that's an anchronism these days.
by Keith Grossman on 08 March 2011 - 20:03
How many good posters did we lose over this mess and the way it was (mis)handled?
by VomMarischal on 08 March 2011 - 20:03
Jenni, PM sent.
Keith, they lost anybody who was worth one cent. Anybody with any ethics.
Keith, they lost anybody who was worth one cent. Anybody with any ethics.
by Rugers Guru on 08 March 2011 - 20:03
However.... This is not about pointing fingers to anyone but Janess.... This is about how very important it is to listen to the past. Realize people do not change much, and this kind of thing is not curable. People like this are SICK, and need to be monitored 24/7.
The original threads about Bartmess were very important to this website, those that were deleted may have saved some poor dogs life or health had the owners been able to research her here before handing their dog over to this monster.
The original threads about Bartmess were very important to this website, those that were deleted may have saved some poor dogs life or health had the owners been able to research her here before handing their dog over to this monster.
by Donald Deluxe on 08 March 2011 - 20:03
"How many good posters did we lose over this mess and the way it was (mis)handled?"
A bunch, Keith, a bunch, although I think it's fair to say that certain posters with personal issues in league with the animal abuser needlessly complicated things by trying to misdirect Oli to take action against other members.
But I'm encouraged by what I'm seeing here today - perhaps some good can come out of this story after all.
A bunch, Keith, a bunch, although I think it's fair to say that certain posters with personal issues in league with the animal abuser needlessly complicated things by trying to misdirect Oli to take action against other members.
But I'm encouraged by what I'm seeing here today - perhaps some good can come out of this story after all.
by Donald Deluxe on 08 March 2011 - 20:03
You agreed with a convicted animal abuser that a certain poster wasn't being fair to her. So how'd YOUR friendship that enabled and emboldened the convict to continue her hoarding/abusive behavior work out for the convict's mother and dogs?
With that in mind, I'd suggest that MY character and discretion is not the issue here. Not one bit.
With that in mind, I'd suggest that MY character and discretion is not the issue here. Not one bit.
by Betty on 08 March 2011 - 20:03
i don't get it, why would anyone sell, give or lend her a dog? The most basic google search should of stopped any transaction cold.
And if they knew of her history and either didn't care or thought she was reformed. Shame. Give someone a second chance when you are the only one that stands to lose something, don't have a dog pay the price for your "good deed."
If that sounds harsh I'm sorry. between the dogs starved in Penn and now this I am sick.
And if they knew of her history and either didn't care or thought she was reformed. Shame. Give someone a second chance when you are the only one that stands to lose something, don't have a dog pay the price for your "good deed."
If that sounds harsh I'm sorry. between the dogs starved in Penn and now this I am sick.
by Sock Puppet on 08 March 2011 - 21:03
I hope Janice rots in hell and I hope the 5 or 6 people who supported her can live with themselves. All who supported her or did not speak out against her fed her sickness.
In my mind that makes you just as guilty.
In my mind that makes you just as guilty.
by Donald Deluxe on 08 March 2011 - 21:03
In deleting all her posts from raymond's "Is this ddr-dsh?" thread, at least Maggie showed that she was embarrassed, if not exactly remorseful. Better that than to try to revise history in the face of those who were around to see it.
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