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Jeff can you please speak to where you are headed with your breeding program?  Are there specific traits you want to improve on or add via your program?  I realize we are not talking about litters being born today, so much as down the line.  I am seriously  interested to hear your long term goals.  I know that you have started with  a couple of  french GSDs and was wondering what you are seeing in them, that made you want to bring them to the table? 

Like I said, I have never been a competitor in ring, so I can't comment on ring. All I can comment on is SchH. But like you said, it's messed up that if you don't do well in two phases, you didn't do well. Can't imagine how easy it would be to string three phases together. And I know what you mean about the lengths of the tracks. Since I have zero experience competing in ring, I'll assume the tracks are longer than SchH, otherwise, I doubt you'd make that statement.

And so now we know why you had a hard time with SchH. You couldn't handle the OB. You couldn't handle it, that is training a dog to succeed in the obedience portion and/or you had a dog lacking qualities to excel in the rigorous training required to succeed in OB.  I call bullshit when I hear some shit like the ones that runs deep out of Jeff's mouth.  You describe a trial and you measure the sport based on that.  You can describe a schutzhund trial all you want, but the challenege for the handler/dog team is the amount of rigorous training it takes from beginning to end (well there's really no end is there?) to excel in SchH3.  Notice I'm not fukin talking nor describing what takes place in ONE trial. Show me a shitter that can take the amount of training from beginning to end, in order to EXCEL in SchH3.  Well? Thought so.

WTF is ringsport? Where the hell is the tracking? Where the hell is the OB. Ringsport... leaves much to be desired in the training of a worthy dog.

 

and you now you want to breed. wow, now that is despicable. maybe learn to work a dog, before trying to find the good working dog from your lousy attempt at breeding.

Michael Ellis took 2nd at the mondio nationals. Something the likes of Jeff won't ever see in his lifetime.  Google Ellis on Schutzhund, and you'll hear him say something along the lines of "standards are set from schutzhund... innovation emerges from the schutzhund community... etc."  Jeff you should be on your knees sucking Ellis, since he's the mondio God.

Oh for crap sake, can we move this discussion away from the never ending  fight over which sport is better and talk about the breed and what can be done to improve it?????  I don't give a SHIT who likes which sport better,  I do schutzhund, Jeff does Mondio SO  WHAT???????   Jeff is going to always have shitty things to say about schutzhund, just forget about it, he's entitled to his opinion whether we agree with it or not.  THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

I want to hear Jeff's plans and  I don't want this to turn into yet another stupid my cock's bigger than your cock's thread because my sports better than your sport.  That's just a stupid argument with no damn end.

Devnull please understand I know exactly where you are coming from, have felt the same frustrations, especially  with those who knock schutzhund,  who haven't done anything in any grip sport, don't know their ass from a hole in the ground and are only parroting things they read on a message board, but you know what?  THEY REALLY DON'T MATTER, THEY NEVER WILL!!!!!!  And if they aren't involved, then there is no point arguing with them about it.  Just nod politely and walk away, to do otherwise is a waste of energy because they just don't get it.

Now can we please just discuss breeding program and goals?

SO THERE.

 

Sue, you're my elder board member and I love you, but don't ever take sides against the family again. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't whip mine out first. If Ivan came on here and said SchH was "easy" and a "goof", I'd take that, but to hear that from Jeff is hilarious.

Funny! I was actually going to use a sprinter as an analogy. The funnier thing is that I don't know any long distance runner's name.

Don I actually wasn't refering to you because not only didn't you make your point in a rude or argumentative manner, I cracked up at your remarks about ring tracking........besides I have always had a big crush on you......... BUT HEY  NOW - Did you just call me OLD ?????!!!!!!

So I am getting ripped apart ? I guess I should be emotional then. ...... Nope, don't feel it.  My mind doesn't feel anything either. 

 

I never had a hard time with Sch. Never said that, but you were quick to assume that, making an ass out of you, and umption. 

 

I don't know what Mike said about Sch or innovation. We usually talk about other things, like life, the dogs, you know normal stuff. We don't talk about Sch, or how gay it is, or how overcompensating most of the silly shits that write stuff like you just did are. 

 

I live in Texas, if you are ever around, you can come and help me with my OB and tell me all about how tough it is for a dog to do it.  You can bring your dog and relax and then you can tell me all about how easy Buko is to train, and make fun all you want. You can watch him train and then tell me all about what I am doing wrong. I don't mind. However, if you ever grow a pair and decide to try Mondio, then maybe you can tell me all about how tough it is to train Sch. 

 

As far as breeding goals, I know what I want, and maybe, maybe I know how to get there. Considering it is my first litter on the way there, maybe you need to get back to me in a few years. Hell, maybe it won't work, maybe I will never get a dog placed in a home that does ring. That is all for later. Right now I want to see lower thresholds and good character. 

 

Quote: and you now you want to breed. wow, now that is despicable. maybe learn to work a dog, before trying to find the good working dog from your lousy attempt at breeding.

I guess we will see how lousy it is. Pretty funny considering they are 11 weeks old. Sure, they could turn out to be shit, always a possibility, but I am pretty sure that you are clueless about what is or isn't  a lousy attempt. I am betting that all this butt hurt comes from having a dog that isn't a banger like mine is.