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Well, I read the original statements and posts and left it alone because I wasn't going to bother and I think that would have taken that thread off topic. Although, Devnull and Vinny seem to be really pissed about this, they did not start the conversation. Jeff, like usual, opened his mouth (ok, keyboard/mind), and people take offense. Jeff is a big boy making big boy statements. Hopefully, he can back them up without all the assistance. I don't have a problem with Jeff or his statements, as long as he can back up his claims. Otherwise, he is just another armchair quarterback, Uncle Rico, talking about how he coulda won states if coach woulda put him in the game. Hell, I don't mind someone saying one is harder than the other. It's the fact that one feels the need to trash talk the other to make their sport look better.

But that's just Jeff. 

I wasn't in the mood this morning to be told to STFU by some idiot I don't even know, in reference to something I wasn't even talking about. That's all.

Have a wonderful day, darling. I get to spend mine trying to get someone's total nervous wreck of a GSD to not lunge so hard at other dogs that he renders his owners bedridden. Both have had back surgery, one as a result of injuries caused by this dog. Toodles!

I use an ax every day.

 

Don, I have actually had the "tracking" conversation with you before. How about you show us your scorebooks ? How about a video of your training ? After all, hiding behind your "gangster" pseudonym tells me a little of you. I put up all kinds of videos good, bad, ugly. Where are your videos ? After all, you want all this "proof" but where are you at ? 

I hate cowardice. I put my name out there and I voice my opinion which you don't have to agree with, and have said that you do not have enough experience to even have this conversation, but now it is put up your score books Jeff. How about you show us your dogs your training, and lets see how good you are. Lets see if you have any guts. LOL

I love the little girls that hide behind their fake names.  Tough guys on their computers.

Sue, Buko is not like Joker at all. LOL I have never seen the dog but have heard much about his personality. Buko is a lot stronger dog. He is not afraid of gates and whatever else Joker had problems with. Buko is not afraid of shit. Brittany did an amazing job with that dog. No one should ever forget that.

If you have a GSD that you think can measure up, then you are sadly mistaken. Hell, you could just go watch Bogan. Man, that dog is fun to watch. 

So the offer still stands. You guys can come out and train, I don't have any sissy hard sleeves, so if you are going to take a bite, you are going to feel it. Esko bites nice and hard, I guarantee you are going to feel it. I will work your dogs as well, see how they compare. Always good to see new people and new dogs.

 

So, it's ok to hide behind a statement, but not a fake name? I'm not making the claims. You are. What do I have to prove? I didn't say anything was "easy" or "goof" or "average". Don't try to deflect this back to me. I didn't make the statements, you did. If someone claims to be double-jointed and I say, "BS", does that mean I have to prove I'm double jointed? If you don't want someone to question your validity, don't make stupid statements. I am trying to be as civil as possible. I don't care what sport anyone does. As long as theyan and their dog enjoy it, who cares. You started the thread. But I guess if you keep asking for my stuff, you get out of looking like an ass.

Oh Jeff, now you're just being silly.  You should know better than to believe rumors about dogs you have never seen.  Not only did Joker win everything in the states, he placed 5th in the World Championships.  I realize you don't like schutzhund, but to everyone else in the world, this is a pretty nice accomplishment.  You have a MRII on Buko.   As far as who trained Joker, I'm not going there with you either because that has nothing to do with this conversation.  Also I didn't say MY dog was on a par, I said there are dogs in the training group I am with that are on a  par.

Listen, I hoped this thread was going to be a serious conversation about your breeding program and what you felt should be done to improve the breed.  I was really looking forward to hearing what you had to say.  Instead this has turned into just another immature and  stupid pissing contest.  

 Someone please let me know if this thread takes a turn for the better because I think it could be quite informative, but if it stays in the gutter, don't bother.

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But I guess if you keep asking for my stuff, you get out of looking like an ass.

I don't look like an ass, you look like a sissy for wanting proof, and not ever having shown anything that you have done. Kinda sucks doesn't it ? You can make fun and act like you know what it is you are talking about, but hide behind a fake name and never show us your training. 

That, little gangster wannabee is the definition of armchair quarterbacking. You want to run your mouth and tell me I know shit, but there you are in mom's basement, ya know ? Who the hell are you to even speak to me ? Are you starting to get my drift ? All my training good and bad is out there for little hideaways like you to look at and talk shit about. Where is anything you have done ? Better hope the sue the moderator saves you. 

 

Quote: I see this conversation is going no where fast.

It is not up to you where this conversation goes. You think you see GSD's on par with Buko, I call bullshit. Hows that for not going the way you want. You think I know nothing about dogs. I remember lighting you up like a Christmas tree when you thought you could fix a dutch shepherds aggression problem with food. That was you, right ?  You had the entire board telling you that you had no idea what you were talking about. Some of us work dogs that will eat your lunch for you. Most here work dogs that they claim are so real, but then the decoy drops the sleeve and the dog runs off with his prize. I am one of those that know the difference. 

 

When someone like you asks me about my breeding goals, what the heck am I supposed to say ? What are the odds you would even know what I was talking about ? In a few years, my breeding goals will be on the trial field.

If Mondio was more readily available than maybe we'd all know which 1 was better. Then again, It's about the training process. I've owned both breeds and they both come with thier good and bad. By the way, plenty of GS can do Ring.

Quote: By the way, plenty of GS can do Ring.

Name some. "Can" vs "Did" is different. If there really are plenty, which would be cool, please point them out to me. And not ring one dogs. I don't give a shit about ring one. : ) Ring three in this country, preferably currently and not ten or more years ago. That info would be valuable to me.

WOW what the hell are you talking about?  What conversation regarding a Dutch Shepherd?  Hate to break it to you but  either it wasn't memorable or it wasn't me.  Provide a link, please. 

As far as your breeding program, you don't want to talk about it, that's fine.  BUT do you really prefer  this childish back and forth pissing contest?  Just understand I was trying to have a normal conversation with you and in no way did I insult you or your dog, and I'm not going to start.

Glad you love your dog, Jeff.  Have a good day.

LOL, Jeff. Why would I need the mods to save me from a thread you started by running your mouth. Either back it up or shut your mouth.