Tired Of IT!!!!! - Page 3

Quote:  A breeder should breed to make the breed better not for a profit then sell a dog just because it is no good for them any more.

Breed to better the breed. I have said it before, and will say it again, that is some egotistic BS. I rarely see anyone who each litter they produce is better and better and better. If you know of a breeder like this, tell me who they are, as I would love to talk with them. 

Unless the dog has formed NO or little attachment to its owner, I personally think its sad that a "breeder" (define your term here)  would dump (or more nicely rehome) a dog that has done well for them through the years. I didnt read from anyone that dogs do attach to their owners quite strongly. I know Ive taken some of them in. Yeah they may be just livestock but what happened to compassion for a dog that has given it's best to an owner and may have risked it's own life to do it. Why not retire a bitch after the age of 7 or eight to just live out the rest of her time unpregnant.

I had a cow that would follow me where ever I went.  She went was sold after she was 12. You can throw Walt Disney in whenever you want, pick an animal. If I have a chance to buy a bitch that has produced very well and get one more litter from her, I will. 

You see, dogs do not have self pity. They adapt to whatever situation they get thrown into. People are the problem, with their need to attach feelings to situations that are not there. I used to see that with boarding dogs owners, they would be so horrified that fluffy would have to be in a kennel. Fluffy, unless a nervebag, never gave a shit and thought he was in heaven, now that the nightmare owner was gone. Then next time Fluffy showed up, he was dragging the kennel girl back towards the kennel, ignoring his owners need to hug and kiss goodbye. So happy to be away from the emotional disaster that was occurring.

Jeff is correct, I do not know how it works in the USA but i do know how it works over here in Europe, What i find the most sad is that People breed from there dog or dogs at all. For me the only reason to breed from your Dog male or Female is to get a Pup or two for your own use. Unless you are a Breeder who breeds every Year and i defy any such person to say they are NOT doing it for Profit, And i will not take a No on that because i do not think they are telling the truth, OTHERWISE there is no reason to breed from your dogs on a regular basis.
Over here some breeders will sell most or any of there Dogs if the price is right and i guess it is the same in the USA, I know people who make a living from breeding Dogs and Selling but they are very good Quality Dogs the parents are very well bred indeed, and i do know that they get Titles on there dogs and Korclassed before they go anywhere Plus of course Joints Tested for Breeding, Of course that is there right as it is anywhere but i find it a bit tiresome when i keep hearing the same old clap trap if you breed properly you make next to nothing profit on selling the pups. As i said then why breed at all,
 But worse of all is Dogs being bred from which have not had or done any work at all except learn to lay on a Couch and have not been Joint Tested that to me is a SIN to ever breed from such animals there are enough well bred Shepherds in the Dog Pounds without adding to them.
Steve1
Reading Jeffs last post he is right, It is the owners of dogs who get sentmental. They have had there dog for a few years and say he or she will not settle in another home and will pine for the owner. Nothing of the sort a Dog will adapt very quickly to the one who treats it well and feeds it, There is very little or no sentiment with Dogs only with the Human side.I know of a Dog who had been handled by a Guy from a Pup it was 5 years old when he sold it, The new Owner forgot the Pedigree a week later he goes back to pick up the Pedigree and took the dog with him. The Old owner called the dog to him, The Dog hardly glanced at him and stayed by the side of the New Owner, that showed how easy they forget or in fact are not interested only in the one who has given them the last meal. To be honest after i lost Pup Heidi  in her accident i said hell thats enough if a dog has to go then it goes it will not miss me after a couple of days and thats the way i think now I missed Izzy for a Day or two then forgot she was ever here, I will never bother again at parting with a Dog or have second thoughts ever again.
Hard as it is thats the right way to think if you know you are putting the Dog in a good home where it will be looked after

Steve1,Jeff, Ace52, thumbs up! People will attach their emotional baggage to a dog in a heartbeat. Many many owners actually think dogs view things emotionally the same way they do....its sad and very misguided.

It is easy to call it emotional baggage in a human sense but in a dog sense, they certainly have strong emotions and reactions to a bonded owner who "abandons" them, and upon a reunion are absolutely vociferous in their joy. I've certainly seen it.

It is my opinion that our humaness denies this aspect for many human reasons.





 

Not really the same thing as what we are talking about now is it ?

Dogs do bond, some more strongly than others. Regardless of the bond, I fail to see how a dog is not better off in a real home, a good retirement home w/a family, instead of staying at a breeder's house who no longer has room for it and has to keep it kenneled 24/7, even if the dog will go through a TEMPORARY bout of possible confusion, stress, etc. Anyone who's ever adopted a dog from a shelter knows what I mean. I have never had a dog NOT adjust, unless the dog was such a basket case that the kinder thing to do would've been euth.

Oh, I am not saying they can't adjust, just that it is can be a traumatic event, and it isn't fair to deny them that.

I think it is quite a different stress (and relief) for a shelter dog being rehomed, than a breeding dog that was secure in its status in a loving home.

Yes, Dogs do bond but i think they will bond okay to the person very quickly who they go to if treated  well, A dog is happy if it is fed well and given work and play those two things will make a dog happy and he will soon forget his past owner,
They do not think as we humans do. come to think of it Humans are not so great at bonding with each other going on the divorce rate throughout the world. It is in fact the way the human brain thinks,
 But dogs do not think as we do they are a selfish type of animal overall if they get what they want then they are happy and will settle in okay
Steve1