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by beetree on 18 September 2011 - 15:09
LOL
Does that mean you'll be first in-line for a contract re-do? A new lease on your dogs life?
Does that mean you'll be first in-line for a contract re-do? A new lease on your dogs life?
by Brandi on 19 September 2011 - 15:09
Beetree,
Who me?
If so, hell no. No need to. I know where I stand, where Dugan stands, as well as Molly. Also, my Family knows what's best for Dugan in the event of my early demise and that would be Molly.
~Brandi and Dugan v. Eichenluft~
Who me?
If so, hell no. No need to. I know where I stand, where Dugan stands, as well as Molly. Also, my Family knows what's best for Dugan in the event of my early demise and that would be Molly.
~Brandi and Dugan v. Eichenluft~
by beetree on 19 September 2011 - 18:09
Brandi, yes you! lol.
So, your dog, in the event of your unexpected demise, would be a gift back to the breeder? Or would your family expect recompense? Just wondering how the details make a difference, between the old and updated versions. Seems to me, anyone signing a new one, automatically has less say in their dog, no matter what. So, I'm with you, I wouldn't want to sign the new one, either.
So, your dog, in the event of your unexpected demise, would be a gift back to the breeder? Or would your family expect recompense? Just wondering how the details make a difference, between the old and updated versions. Seems to me, anyone signing a new one, automatically has less say in their dog, no matter what. So, I'm with you, I wouldn't want to sign the new one, either.
by Brandi on 19 September 2011 - 19:09
"So, your dog, in the event of your unexpected demise, would be a gift back to the breeder?"
I wouldn't call it a gift, rather classify it as what would be right for my dog. Molly wouldn't demand Dugan back, she would make sure he was in the right hands. If not, she has all right to follow through with her contract. If he is in the right hands, I'm sure Molly would allow him to stay where ever that would be. As her goal is the safety and well being of her own dogs and the ones she has produced.
"So, I'm with you, I wouldn't want to sign the new one, either."
I, no where stated I wouldn't sign the new one. I particularly don't care. But when I am ready for my next Eichenluft, I will sign it, as owning a dog from someone I trust and lineage whom I've desired to own progeny, as long as the contract is within reason, I will sign it.
I think, as many topics on this board, get way out of hand. And slander, bashing, and "going after" another is usually what happens here. But with a discussion board comes that immature behavior. To each their own.
All I know is, I own a wonderful dog. I love him and no matter whatever happens to me, he will always be taken care of. Whether it be Molly or my Family.
I wouldn't call it a gift, rather classify it as what would be right for my dog. Molly wouldn't demand Dugan back, she would make sure he was in the right hands. If not, she has all right to follow through with her contract. If he is in the right hands, I'm sure Molly would allow him to stay where ever that would be. As her goal is the safety and well being of her own dogs and the ones she has produced.
"So, I'm with you, I wouldn't want to sign the new one, either."
I, no where stated I wouldn't sign the new one. I particularly don't care. But when I am ready for my next Eichenluft, I will sign it, as owning a dog from someone I trust and lineage whom I've desired to own progeny, as long as the contract is within reason, I will sign it.
I think, as many topics on this board, get way out of hand. And slander, bashing, and "going after" another is usually what happens here. But with a discussion board comes that immature behavior. To each their own.
All I know is, I own a wonderful dog. I love him and no matter whatever happens to me, he will always be taken care of. Whether it be Molly or my Family.
by Betty on 19 September 2011 - 19:09
Since you are the one that I would presume knows your dog, your family and your breeder best wouldn't you rather be the one to make that decision?
Personally I would prefer my dogs in a home of my choosing rather then in a breeder's kennel waiting to be rehomed or whatever.
Personally I would prefer my dogs in a home of my choosing rather then in a breeder's kennel waiting to be rehomed or whatever.
by Red Sable on 19 September 2011 - 19:09
Brandi, it won't be your family, it will be Molly, until she sells it, that is. If you are fine with that, who are we to argue.
I'm with you Betty.
I'm with you Betty.
by GSDNewbie on 19 September 2011 - 19:09
I agree with the last two. I would not want my grieveing house dogs to be thrown into a kennel, bewildered, and away from anyone they know and to be put up for sale.
At least these dogs know these people in this specific issue. My dogs will go to my husband and eldest son except for one of them. The last one will go to another person. All prearranged. No resales to other homes. Just wondering where does the money from selling them a second time belong? Do they get sold for just the care invested until rehomed? Do they get sold for full value of a profit bringing dog flesh like the dog was raised and advanced from the breeder instead of being left to the breeder? If a breeder did get these dogs and sold them I would think at least the right thing would have been done would be to give the proceeds to cancer research in memory of their owner.
At least these dogs know these people in this specific issue. My dogs will go to my husband and eldest son except for one of them. The last one will go to another person. All prearranged. No resales to other homes. Just wondering where does the money from selling them a second time belong? Do they get sold for just the care invested until rehomed? Do they get sold for full value of a profit bringing dog flesh like the dog was raised and advanced from the breeder instead of being left to the breeder? If a breeder did get these dogs and sold them I would think at least the right thing would have been done would be to give the proceeds to cancer research in memory of their owner.
by Brandi on 19 September 2011 - 19:09
"Since you are the one that I would presume knows your dog, your family and your breeder best wouldn't you rather be the one to make that decision?"
Don't you understand, that by signing a contract I HAVE made that decision!....as everyone else that has ever signed a contract!.....as did the owner who is in discussion.
"Personally I would prefer my dogs in a home of my choosing rather then in a breeder's kennel waiting to be rehomed or whatever".
Then buying from a Breeder with a contract such as Molly's would not be good for you. So, go somewhere else .
"Brandi, it won't be your family, it will be Molly, until she sells it, that is. If you are fine with that, who are we to argue."
It will be my Family as long as Molly feels Dugan is in the right home. No where does her contract state that SHE WILL take back the dog. It just states that she is to have first option. And if Dugan's best option is to go back to Molly's to either live out his life with her or be placed, I trust Molly fully that either option it will be for HIS benefit....not Molly's. Is it not suppose to be about the dog.
I signed Molly's contract when I brought Dugan home. If I didn't like it, I wouldn't have him. Everyone else should do the same.
The point some of you are missing is that the person whom we are talking about, RIP, signed the contract. As Molly said, the friends who took the dog(s) are going AGAINST their own friends wishes. Plain and simple!
Don't you understand, that by signing a contract I HAVE made that decision!....as everyone else that has ever signed a contract!.....as did the owner who is in discussion.
"Personally I would prefer my dogs in a home of my choosing rather then in a breeder's kennel waiting to be rehomed or whatever".
Then buying from a Breeder with a contract such as Molly's would not be good for you. So, go somewhere else .
"Brandi, it won't be your family, it will be Molly, until she sells it, that is. If you are fine with that, who are we to argue."
It will be my Family as long as Molly feels Dugan is in the right home. No where does her contract state that SHE WILL take back the dog. It just states that she is to have first option. And if Dugan's best option is to go back to Molly's to either live out his life with her or be placed, I trust Molly fully that either option it will be for HIS benefit....not Molly's. Is it not suppose to be about the dog.
I signed Molly's contract when I brought Dugan home. If I didn't like it, I wouldn't have him. Everyone else should do the same.
The point some of you are missing is that the person whom we are talking about, RIP, signed the contract. As Molly said, the friends who took the dog(s) are going AGAINST their own friends wishes. Plain and simple!
by GSDNewbie on 19 September 2011 - 19:09
the friends who took the dog(s) are going AGAINST their own friends wishes. Plain and simple!
How can this statement be true if now Molly claims now to not know anything about these people?
How can this statement be true if now Molly claims now to not know anything about these people?
by Brandi on 19 September 2011 - 19:09
"I would not want my grieveing house dogs to be thrown into a kennel, bewildered, and away from anyone they know and to be put up for sale."
I agree with you GSDNewbie, 100%. But, what is being discussed here is Molly specifically, and in no way would she ever treat her dogs or the ones she has produced that way.
I agree with you GSDNewbie, 100%. But, what is being discussed here is Molly specifically, and in no way would she ever treat her dogs or the ones she has produced that way.
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