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by Mackenzie on 05 September 2011 - 06:09

Was this a good Sieger Show or a Bad Sieger Show? How will the breed benefit from the top selections in each class? Will the males be more influential for the better than the females? Will the selections address problems that we have in the breed?

Mackenzie

 

by Mackenzie on 05 September 2011 - 16:09

After 171 viewings there have been no comments on this thread.  Perhaps nobody has noticed that 21% of the females in the Gebrauchshund class scored less than perfect in the schutzdienst.   However, full credit must be given to the Siegerin who made the top ten list of best females in this exercise.  Are we concerned about strength of character and workability?   Perhaps it doesn't matter anymore.  Is there concern that there appears to be no search for an alternative breeding family to help get out of the breeding rut that we have at present, or, is it common consensus that everything in the garden is rosy with what we have?  Must be because nobody says otherwise.

Mackenzie

 

VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 05 September 2011 - 17:09

Mackenzie, to be fair, many people are still traveling. I expect we will not see detailed commentary for a week or so, to allow people to come back and begin writing their impressions. I think we must be patient for now.

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 05 September 2011 - 22:09

No one is responding to your thread because you clearly have an agenda.  Why not just state what it is and be done with it?

by dshlerner on 05 September 2011 - 22:09

Or...maybe people are just tired of the same ol' "debate"

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 05 September 2011 - 22:09

Pretty much.  Get your own lives, people, and quit living vicariously through your dogs.  Owning a circus doesn't make you a tiger.

by Mackenzie on 06 September 2011 - 05:09



 

by Mackenzie on 06 September 2011 - 05:09

To all of the people that have posted on this thread - thankyou.

I take the point of VonIsengard that people may still be travelling but from the 171 viewings at the time of my last post there were 171 people that could have made comment.

For Keith Grossman's benefit I can say that I do not have an agenda at all.

In response to dshlerner I would say that their comment confirms what I said in my second post

Perhaps now these respondents would like to comment on the subject of the thread if they are able to and perhaps some progress can be made.

Mackenzie




by dshlerner on 06 September 2011 - 16:09

Mackenzie,

   As I have previously stated,the likely reason that your bait has not gotten many bites up to this point is that in short: we've seen this before! In years past,after every BSZS(or USA show for that matter) someone pops on here to start the old,and very tired exchange about what's wrong with the Show lines,"which is better?". Pepole are sick of it!

   Perhaps,if you really want to have a dialogue,you would offer a prescription or 2 of your own on how you feel improvements could be made. That way,it might not appear that you have an "agenda". Please let said prescriptions reflect your knowledge of training,genetics and modes of inheritance,and the level of commitment that it takes for the breeders,owners,trainers,and handlers of these dogs,be they working or show,to get them to the top levels of competition.
Until then, I would not expect many on here to entertain your query.

   With that being said, I second your kudos to Alisha vom Eichenplatz on being named a very well deserved VA1,as well as the VA12 male Ballack zur Worringer Rheinaue AMONG OTHERS !

by dshlerner on 06 September 2011 - 17:09

 pepole(above) should have been people.sorry...my Dyslexia kicks in at the most unlikely times.LOL






 


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