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Kelly M Shaw

by Kelly M Shaw on 26 September 2011 - 17:09

Does anyone have the website for the one that is $15 to check for DM?? We've been using OFA and it's $65 per dog.  Right now our stud dog is clear of DM as well as 2 of our girls. Then we have 3 pups that we haven't checked yet, but both parents of the pups are clear of DM. We have 2 females to test yet and the 3 pups that we have, but were not in a hurry with them b/c their puppies and both their parents are DM Clear.

by Blitzen on 26 September 2011 - 20:09

Hi Kelly,

If both parents test normal, you don't need to test the puppies. All from 2 normals will always be normal. OFA says they will be issuing clearances for 1st generation dogs out of 2 normal parents. Not sure when that's going to happen. I think I'll email them and ask that question and why they won't list results of dogs tested by other labs.

 


leoetta

by leoetta on 26 September 2011 - 20:09

Oh this is so sad, people please ask for test results especially if someone is advertising they have DM free lines, I've just been to a website of someone I know personally that I wont mention, but they are saying that they breed all German Lines and they don't have DM in their lines. This is someone too cheap to test their dogs and dumb enough to tell themselves and their customers that the German Lines don't have DM. So very frustrating and stupid!!!

GranvilleGSD

by GranvilleGSD on 26 September 2011 - 20:09

OFA will only offer a clear by parentage (meaning the pup came from 2 clear parents) certificate if the following requirements are met, both sire and dam must have OFA DM numbers, they must both have AKC DNA #s on file, and the puppy must have an AKC DNA number on file.  They will only be offered for first generation offspring.  It's easier and faster and probably cheaper to just get a DM test done!  That money supports further research too.  Also, many breeders do not have AKC DNA #s on file for their females, as it is only required for imports and frequently used studs, etc.

I also believe that this test/gene is only a part of the big picture when it comes to DM, that there are likely separate yet similar disease processes going on here.

 


RoZoAn

by RoZoAn on 26 September 2011 - 22:09


PLEASE, PLEASE, breeders, test for DM.  It is a sad, sad disease.  It is hard to stay strong for Anja.  1 and 1/2 year ago she was still competing in obedience.  She is now in the end stages of DM.  This is a picture of her on her first day with her new cart at the beginning of summer.  She did awesome with it all summer, but it is getting harder for her now, as she is completely down in the rear now.  I have to hold her up to potty in her special harness.  She is still happy and healthy (except for well controlled EPI) and can still swim!  and no continence issues.....yet.  So I will continue to help her.  It just breaks my heart.  And yes, she is on the OFA website as at risk. 

Janet and
 U-CD, Ca-Ji's New Years Mojo, CDX, Can CD, RAE, PT, JHD
Retired much too young at the age of 7...........

by Blitzen on 26 September 2011 - 23:09

No breeder should be claiming a DM free line unless his/her dogs are DNA tested. Some of the more popular V rated German dogs have produced at risks as have some working line dogs meaning they too must be at risks or carriers. I'm not going to mention those dogs here, but it's a matter of public record. Anyone who is interested in researching these claims can easily do so on the OFA database. Too bad the other testing labs don't have a similar database. No line or lines are genetically free of this and no breeder should be making that statement unless there is DNA testing to back up the claim. Having a line where no testing has ever been done doesn't mean the dogs are clear. It means they have not been tested.

Thanks for the good information, GranvilleGSD.  I think members of the GSDCA are more likely to submit DNA samples to AKC than non-members.

I am so sorry for those who are losing their beloved dogs to this horrible disaease.

leoetta

by leoetta on 27 September 2011 - 02:09

I know Blitzen it made me extremely angry when I read it today, but it unfortunately it did not surprise me as this same breeder breeds dogs that come back with dysplastic elbows and a3 hips, nothing against a3 hips but with dysplastic elbows too, come on, really are you that hard up to make a buck off of your dogs, not to mention the dogs that are not even x-rayed to begin with yet advertised with "a stamps" Just ridiculous. Sickening to say the least, but the DM claims now made are the icing on the cake!

by Nans gsd on 27 September 2011 - 02:09

Hopefully if we try to educate the public with public forums like this, people will become more aware of the breed (s) that need these clearances; and put it on the list of do/don'ts when looking for a new puppy/dog.  Keep your fingers crossed for the breeds sake.  Thx  Nan

by Blitzen on 27 September 2011 - 03:09

I think it's harder to verify SV hip and elbow ratings than it is OFA certifications; it's pretty easy to get away with claiming an "a" stamp when there is none. Would the SV discipline a member who makes false claims about their dogs certifications? I know one breeder (not GSD's) who cannot submit xrays to OFA anymore because she photoshopped a certificate and got busted.





 


leoetta

by leoetta on 27 September 2011 - 03:09

Oh it is harder to verify the ratings for sure, but I know this from personal first hand information. I'd say it would be easy to claim a stamps and I think it would be hard if not impossible to get them to be disciplined by the SV. Just sad for the customers that trust the breeders, I'm sure they think the breeders would never lie about something so important regarding their breed they profess to love so much and that is the sad part for everyone involved.





 


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