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dogshome9

by dogshome9 on 17 October 2011 - 22:10

Thank you Sachsenwolf for the improvement and SitasMom, thanks for your example of how the hips can change at this young age.

I have spoken to one of the radiology specialist vets who reads and grades our dogs here in Australia about Ricci and I will continue to fight for her xray to be sent to him.

I will be back when I have more news.




windwalker18

by windwalker18 on 18 October 2011 - 00:10

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... across the board!!

Working for a Vet for 25 years I can tell you some of the ridiculous situations that arrise.  If the owner comes in and demands the dog be euathnized the vet CAN suggest that they contact the breeder... BEG for permission to place the puppy themselves... REFUSE, knowing that the client will just go down the road to the next vet and have the dog PTS... or comply with the owners demand and cash the check. There's no set rule I know of with the AVMA stating that perfectly healthy dogs can't/shouldn't be euthanized. 

  Owners also often don't LISTEN to what they're told... the word Dysplasia, or "Not perfect hips" hits their ears to mean you have a cripple here and were probably stuck with her by a breeder who just wanted to dump her.  I've heard owners bug and bug to get something said that they can redefine to justify a quick/easy way out for them.   At the VERY LEAST the purchaser should have contacted you as the breeder and asked to return the pup to you.

  We had a  client with a Bordor Collie who played with the dog on their bed every night before they turned in.  Happy playful dog, then the family had a baby... and in their brilliance chose the bed as the easiest place to change the baby!  DUHHHHHHHHH.... they got very upset at the dog as it was "Leaping on the bed and attacking the baby".  They brought Rocky in to be euthanized... I convinced them to let me find a home for him fortunately, and he went on to become BFF to a 3 year old child the he herded away from the pool, highway and River for the rest of his life.  Sad for your pup that there wasn't someone there to offer her a future.  I doubt you'll ever get the purchaser to understand that they did anything wrong.

dogshome9

by dogshome9 on 18 October 2011 - 01:10

Windwalker, I was here for her, all they had to do was ring and I would have driven down to pick her up and give them their money back.

When I asked why they didn't call me they said "Quote" that she had already been in pain for the 9 months of her life and that had they returned her then I would have only pup her to sleep myself. They obviously don't know me " I work as a vet nurse and it gives me pain each and every time I have to deal with helping a dog over the bridge, I cry with their owners!!

Had she just come back to me (where she had never ever been in pain, she loved to play with her mom with a 20ft tug rope, chase her ball and her favourite thing was to carry huge pieces of firewood home from our daily walk), I would have had her checked by my vet, rexrayed and had them evaluated by a specialist. I would not have sold a puppy if I had thought that she had a problem.




windwalker18

by windwalker18 on 18 October 2011 - 08:10

"At the VERY LEAST the purchaser should have contacted you as the breeder and asked to return the pup to you."

I wouldn't return the cash to a buyer who neglected to have me in the loop in making such a decision, even if they'd had the dog for MONTHS!!  much less a few  days.   In your shoes I'd try to get a statement from the Veterinarian backing up what was said and that the purchaser had demanded that the dog be PTS.  (Note I refuse to call a purchaser the owner after only a couple weeks... )

 


dogshome9

by dogshome9 on 18 October 2011 - 10:10

I have asked their vet a simple Yes / No question about the truth of statements made in the initial email from the buyers and so far no answer, I guess they are being very prudent regarding their client. I have asked the buyer again regarding a radiology specialist reviewing the xray but last night they said they were awaiting a response from their lawyer so I also answered that I was awaiting a response from mine also.

When I checked the primary email and the receipt from their vet only yesterday they actually had Ricci PTS 10 days before informing me so in fact they had only had her for 12 days.

Don't know why it took them so long to inform me???



charlie319

by charlie319 on 18 October 2011 - 16:10

For the crooked vet it is a win-win if he tells them it is dysplastic.  If they're idiots, euthanasia and cremation disposal should run a few hundred dollars and the spay on a female is also a couple of hundred dollars.  I would check with the authorities to see if there have been any complaints about this vet or his clinic.



Fenrir

by Fenrir on 18 October 2011 - 20:10

Wow, this is royally Effed, wow....So um, they want money AND they took the pups life with NO telling you before?? O.o Um wow, I need to have my wife add this to her contract for her cat breeding and will have to add it to mine when I start breeding no killing before letting me know or you lose all rights...I am so,so,so sorry for dog and you this is just too bad. :(

windwalker18

by windwalker18 on 18 October 2011 - 22:10

A lot will ride on any guarantee you ofer written or inferred upon the time of sale.  If you are specific on what the proceedure is to determine any refund or replacement involved with a dysplastic puppy you'll be in better shape than if you have a vague statement such as "puppy is fully guaranteed against dysplasia'...  When I was breeding my contract required that any x-rays had to be viewed by and evaluated by my own vet and/or OFA. And that the dog would be returned to get a replacement.  In reality on the occasion that I had a puppy with any genetic issue I gave a replacement if spayed/altered (on a show breeding animal) One pup I had with a cardiac problem (Aortic stenosis) I replaced 4 years later when the dog passed.

Too many people don't realize that it's the teeth they put into their contracts that protect them and the client.  I hope that this turns out well for you... and am very sorry about the pup.  Things like this shouldn't happen, but unfortunately do.

GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 18 October 2011 - 23:10

dogshome9, I'm so sorry for your loss.  What a horrible situation and the loss of a dog for no good reason.  My heart breaks for you. 

dogshome9

by dogshome9 on 18 October 2011 - 23:10

windwalker,

Unfortunately I don't actually have a contract that new owners have to sign. I do though have paper work that I go through with puppy buyers and included is a statement that says
" If you have a problem with your new puppy be it health, training or behavior then PLEASE CONTACT ME FIRST, IF YOUR VETERINARIAN SUGGESTS ANY TYPE OF SURGERY FOR YOUR PUPPY OR A PROCEDURE OF ANY KIND OTHER THAN VACCINATION PLEASE CONTACT ME. This I say over and over again before they leave but unfortunately most are only thinking of getting home with their new baby and not listening.

Believe me though I am in the procedure of drawing up a contract now, I read it every day and make alterations and subtractions ( I will make sure that this NEVER happens again to a puppy that I have bred ). I will also document this story of justice for Ricci " Cossavane Smartie Pants " and add it to every puppy folder no matter what the out come be it good or bad.









 


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