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by MezandBeau on 10 February 2012 - 03:02
I'm so sorry to hear what happened to your pup and wanted to share my experience of a vet (also here in Aus).
I took my boy down to get de-sexed at 6 months (yes, I know now that's too early - lesson #1 learnt by a new GSD owner) and the vet told me when I picked him up that he was concerned at his gait, could be something wrong with his hips and to bring him back in 6 weeks for another check. The vet nurse made it sound horribly bad when she phoned but the vet himself wasn't quite as concerned.
Needless to say the first thing I did was get in contact with the breeder (who was horrified at the vet's apparent ignorance of GSDs) and they referred me to their own vet (also local). So off I went to their vet, slightly anxious but knowing my boy wasn't showing any signs of pain or discomfort, and he said my boy is just a growing, lanky kid and his hips were perfectly fine.
Lesson learnt for new GSD owner #2 - make sure you pick the right vet and always get a second opinion. The breeder had said to me to contact them with any questions and they've been great. I just can't believe these people didn't do the same thing for Ricci.
I took my boy down to get de-sexed at 6 months (yes, I know now that's too early - lesson #1 learnt by a new GSD owner) and the vet told me when I picked him up that he was concerned at his gait, could be something wrong with his hips and to bring him back in 6 weeks for another check. The vet nurse made it sound horribly bad when she phoned but the vet himself wasn't quite as concerned.
Needless to say the first thing I did was get in contact with the breeder (who was horrified at the vet's apparent ignorance of GSDs) and they referred me to their own vet (also local). So off I went to their vet, slightly anxious but knowing my boy wasn't showing any signs of pain or discomfort, and he said my boy is just a growing, lanky kid and his hips were perfectly fine.
Lesson learnt for new GSD owner #2 - make sure you pick the right vet and always get a second opinion. The breeder had said to me to contact them with any questions and they've been great. I just can't believe these people didn't do the same thing for Ricci.
by FlashBang on 27 February 2012 - 15:02
"Needless to say the first thing I did was get in contact with the breeder (who was horrified at the vet's apparent ignorance of GSDs) and they referred me to their own vet (also local). So off I went to their vet, slightly anxious but knowing my boy wasn't showing any signs of pain or discomfort, and he said my boy is just a growing, lanky kid and his hips were perfectly fine."
In regards to getting a second opinion, your best bet for a second opinion is a Veterinarian not associated with/no history with your dog's breeder if you are concerned about possible hip issues. I have seen far too many forum posts over the years about Vets working hand-in-hand with breeders (and not in a good way.)
As to the whole dilemma at hand (the original dilemma,) I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the pup was never euthanized (unless you have the Veterinarian's report showing that the GSD was euthanized) and was sold to someone.
In regards to getting a second opinion, your best bet for a second opinion is a Veterinarian not associated with/no history with your dog's breeder if you are concerned about possible hip issues. I have seen far too many forum posts over the years about Vets working hand-in-hand with breeders (and not in a good way.)
As to the whole dilemma at hand (the original dilemma,) I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the pup was never euthanized (unless you have the Veterinarian's report showing that the GSD was euthanized) and was sold to someone.
by Eldee on 28 February 2012 - 02:02
Something sounds very fishy here. Why would they want a third dog when they have a two already. Perhaps they wanted to breed her with the dogs and when they found out her hips weren't perfect that was the end of her. I have come to learn over the years that people are crazy. They always do the unexpected. Life is full of normals, until money enters the situation, then all of a sudden the crazy comes out. Nothing you can do about human nature, move on and keep breeding beautiful puppies.
by dogshome9 on 28 February 2012 - 09:02
But her hips were almost perfect 2/4 is an excellent score.
Ricci was euthanized according to the vet records.
Atleast they charged and charged far more than is normal for the service almost $200.00 Au.
by Emerald City on 29 February 2012 - 06:02
I also live in Aus, and this is a terrible story. As plenty others have mentioned, something fishy has taken place here. It can be a minefield for responsible breeders as well. I'm glad these owners (who bought your puppy) feel that they've been ostracised, to the point that no 'responsible breeder' will sell them a well-bred/healthy puppy ever again.
by dogshome9 on 01 March 2012 - 00:03
Thank you Emerald City, quite a few breeder have been in touch with me about both the people and the vet x 2 they used as they took the xray to another vet in their local area who also diagnosed the pup with HD without seeing her or even knowing her history.
Vets we should all be reporting the bad ones to the AVA and see what they will do about these shonky practices.
by Emerald City on 01 March 2012 - 05:03
I'm also on the line of thinking that the GSD suffered a trauma type of injury, during it's run-in with the Rottie as previously mentioned, and the injury has possibly destabilised the entire joint, albeit temporarily with the correct course of treatment. GSD's are sometimes too bloody agile (i mean that in a good way) for their own good, particularly in the instance of vigorous exercise. They're the canine equivalent of high-performance athletes, and as such they're prone to agility-related injuries, like footballers etc.
by MVF on 04 March 2012 - 07:03
So horribly sad. One of this couple has some sort of pathology with respect to sickness and pain and the news that their pup wasn't perfect set off alarm bills and made them crazy. Perhaps they read the internet, got confused and panic stricken, and acted. I once knew an ex corrections officer who had had his back broken in a prison riot. He was hypersensitive to illness, and stunned me by putting down his young male rottweiler when told his hips would not pass OFA. He clearly couldn't cope rationally.
Alternatively, they may be sociopaths, lacking in empathy and having learned to try to cover it up by taking action and characterizing it in language that suggests they have deep feelings ("too much suffering").
This is a word of warning to all of us that one should NEVER sell a pup without a line in the contract that says they must not put down the dog in the first year or two of ownership without an obligatory conversation with the breeder, except in cases of traumatic accident.
Alternatively, they may be sociopaths, lacking in empathy and having learned to try to cover it up by taking action and characterizing it in language that suggests they have deep feelings ("too much suffering").
This is a word of warning to all of us that one should NEVER sell a pup without a line in the contract that says they must not put down the dog in the first year or two of ownership without an obligatory conversation with the breeder, except in cases of traumatic accident.
by dogshome9 on 05 March 2012 - 10:03
MVF, My contract has now been reworded, new clause,
Today I have check with Canine Council and have found out that this puppy's change of registration was done 03/02/2012.
Please tell me WHY would any one change over the registration of a dog that has been dead for 5 months?
That was just 3 days before we met in mediation.
by Anthony8858 on 05 March 2012 - 17:03
Sounds more like a $$$ Scam to me.
I wouldn't be shocked either, if your dog was NOT euthanised.
Sounds like an easy way to get something for nothing.
I wouldn't be shocked either, if your dog was NOT euthanised.
Sounds like an easy way to get something for nothing.
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