GSD breeder arrested in CT - Page 2

Around here they take them out of fenced yards...The thought is that you are being cruel by having them outside in a yard.  I swear you can not win.   There is a group in Vancouver that wears fake uniforms and have trucks painted with animal control on them.  These ladies are actually stealing peoples dogs!  It is very frightening.

There had to be multiple warnings to DM and then after checks ---obviously she didn't comly and they took her dogs.  It's not like they just barged in with no warnings before.......

The article is pretty silent on a lot of things.. other than there was a complaint from October 26th. 

Dogs in Crates when no one is home is NOT uncommon.  Stacking crates in not uncommon if there is a good barrier between the crates.  If the dogs are mostly intact, they really can't just be left loose in the house.. you might not have a house left when you come home if you work.  You might have fewer live dogs when you return than when you left if you just leave 'em all loose. 

Dogs in crates with no water is pretty common in November.  Mine do have water in their crates though one of them does think that water is her personal Day Spa (even in the outdoor kennel). 

They said the place smelled of feces and urine but did not indicate the dogs were housed in crates that had feces and urine in them... and the dogs were housed in feces or urine. 

Lots of people keep their dogs thin and the dog is healthy. 

The story does make you wonder. 

Not saying I am sticking up for the breeder but as a dog owner, I would surely like to know the extent of the abuse of these dogs beyond that article.  It was unclear.

I think the details make the case against this breeder pretty vague, I agree with the last writer about that.  I certainly disagree with the PETA mantra and the extremist legistration attempts against our dog breeders.  "Big Brother's" involvement here is extremely dangerous for all of us.  Policing this issue is near impossible and should be.  Our dog's existances are as individual and diverse as are our own lives and capabilities.  That being said, I do think that if we as a community do not create a "culture" of what is appropriate and start to confront those breeders and individuals that clearly are neglecting or mistreating their animals, we open the door for these idiot organizations to do their thing and make a perhaps less that perfect situation look like some kind of puppy mill mistreatment center.  This is the danger.  I think alot of people turn the other way because either the person's pretty nice and maybe a little chaotic, or they don't want to say anything because the person abusing their dog is a powerful individual in the community.  This is where education for everyone involved becomes important...for example yes your dog's been in the crate all day because you worked like a "dog" all day, but hopefully it has an outlet at night.  If you know your buddy has 20 dogs in the garage in crates and is playing video games all day, have the balls to confront him or her and tell them to get off their ass and work the dogs or get rid of a few, particularly if you know these animals are not be worked or exercised or "anything!!"  We are then responsible, at least indirectly, when an outsider comes in and sees this situation and over sensationalizes it.  Perhaps all those animals are well fed, spoken to well, have adequate veternary care.  Still, all in all, it is a pretty shitty life, still looks bad for dog fanciers and breeders.  Obviously we cannot fix everyone, but we could address the issue prior to some idiot organization taking our rights away.  And this starts, as always, by taking a look at ourselves and what are own practices, have we grown lazy, have we over extended our resources... .

Rationalize the stacking up of a dozen German Shepherds inside a residential home all you want, but there always seems to be a history of some things done, not quite right.... And interestingly enough, "they" are in the process of wiping their info clean, I saw it with my very eyes, one second I saw their page info and in the next second--- "poof" gone.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum/104601.html

this was the same person who 'stole' a dog she sold because the owners decided they wanted to neuter it and she didn't want it done.
I think beetree posted the link to the story.  She was arrested and put on probation for a couple years.

I have no knowledge of her 'conditions', but having lived here in CT my entire life, this state and AC's don't seem to be ones that go in and remove animals for no reasons like you may hear some do.  Just sayin.

Hey it could be a case of neglect absolutely no doubt.  HOWEVER more and more, animal control is seizing animals.  My point is don't trust the media.  We dont have all of the facts in this case.  If she is an animal abuser then she deserves what is coming to her.  That said if she is innocent, her reputation is already sullied by this post and the news report.  How fair is that?  Was it the people who she stole the dog from that called AC?  Anyhow I'm sure my point has been made.

lol Randy!

The other day I accidentally quicked my dog when trimming nails......blood everywhere.  Can you imagine?  They probably would have called out the firing squad.

I talked to Dawn about a puppy way before the stolen dog incident and she seemed normal, not psycho and pretty knowledgeable.
However, I found a pup I liked a little closer to home.

This could have been a disgruntled customer or a pissed off neighbor.

 

I doubt it. Animal control around here doesn't move or act to settle neighbor disputes, frivolously. Seizing animals costs towns lots of money and stresses out the resources for local rescues. Money is tight in case you aren't aware. This isn't a hang nail.

Dawn lost at court, don't forget.

I was referring back to Randy's post.
Unless I miis my guess, he was being a little sarcastic, as was I.
We've had neighbor sqabbles in the town not far from us.  One trying to cause a lot of trouble for someone else.
In our area, if there is a complaint, someone must investigate.  Once they are there they can seize the dogs if they feel the situation warrants it.
Don't know how it works in other jurisdictions.