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Perhaps the video is not mobile enabled, I saw it from my home computer no problem. Must be nice to have the spare time to sit and edit a video just for spite. Swear words, big deal. Do you see any dogs being harmed? I've been instructed by a few people who were hard on me. It's rough when you're sensitive by nature, but rather than go home and cry about it I put on my big girl pants and got better, and thicker skinned.


Quick edit: If you have a problem with profanity, bear in mind you don't know the relationship between the handlers and trainers here. I don't cuss in front of my training clients at work, but when I'm around friends I've known for years I have a quite a mouth, too. I don't know the relationships or context in this video, and neither do a lot of people commenting here. I doubt someone trained with him for 5 years and showed up one day and suddenly he was cussing. If you don't like someone's language, then you think to yourself, "Wow, this is isn't for me" and you don't go back. Who the hell gets so offended they video multiple training sessions for the sole purpose of splicing them together to post on youtube. It's like a schutzhund version of Mean Girls.

For me it's not the language at all!  I can swear with the best of them.  It how it's said.  It's not what you say, it's how you say it!  That's just me though, and if I was spoken to like that I definately would stand up and say something.  Especially if I'm paying him!  JMHO.

Also, I need to add that I don't need things sugar coated for me.  Tell it to me how it is and I can handle it but don't speak to me like that! 

Agreed 100% VonIsengard. And for the others, I have in fact trained with him for over 5yrs, and yes, you know within 5 minutes exactly where Steve is coming from. He doesn't pull punches, and he doesn't sugar coat. His language is colorful for sure, and it tends to get one's attention, but that is the intent. It is NOT personal. Some can see that clearly and can deal with it. Others cannot. The beauty is, NONE of the people in the videos were "drafted" into training with Steve. Everyone made the choice of their own free will. It's no different than anything else, different things motivate different people. Not everyone is suited for military boot camp, football, etc. Others are better suited for different motivators. If you don't like it, no problem, we wish you the very best! Theresa

WOW is right!

I didn't get to view the video, but, I'm sure Steve's language
was every bit as "colorful" as his tat's

Judging by the feedback, the video is a sour grapes attempt
at attacking Steve?
Silly, pathetic, and just plain sad.
I think he'll get a good chuckle out of this thread.

His language is rather colorful, but knowing him for several years,
he has never ever been know to sugar coat anything to anyone.
He will butt heads with his clients/clubmembers, but once you
leave the field it should be forgotten about and thats it.

He will also listen to what a client/student wants to do with their dog,
and as long as it's safe for the dog, he will try what the client/student wants.

As far as the language, think of it like "Vegas",
what happens on the training field stays on the field

I'm pretty sure his group is pretty happy with the caliber of both
bitework and obedience/tracking instruction they are getting.
I believe now Steve is training with many people who were essentially
ignored/mocked or turned away at other clubs because of their dogs are black & red,
or because they are/were novices.

Thumbs up to Steve to have the patience to guide his clients/students through
all three phases of the sport, and nudge them forward when ready to try for their titles.
Some of these same people could hardly figure out which way to put a fur saver on
when they started with him!

Too bad there aren't more "foul mouthed f*ckers" out there like him.

Absolutely correct Workingdogz, in every sense. Theresa

I see no problem with people letting out the hot air.  IMO it makes them better teachers becase they arnt holding anything back.

My question is, what does talking like that accomplish? I think it says a lot about a person, and not in a good way....  Sure he may tell it like it is, but isn't training about having fun with your dog?  I've seen Chef Gordon Ramsey talk like this to people he's talking to , and while I think it's ridiculous in his case as well....at least the people he is talking to are in a situation where they need to wake up, change, and do better.......because their career depends on it......But for dog training, something that should be more about the fun with your dog? Really?

Then don't train with him.

Keith, you're avoiding my question.