Almost 2 years and no AKC Papers - Page 7

If the sire was an import it needed to have his DNA on file before the litter he sired was born.

Didn't read anything but the first paragraph of the initial post. I always laugh at these. By the way, your dog is almost three if you got it in 09. But hey, take your time.

Yes the Sire was DNA'd back in 2010, he is now Reg'd with AKC, this was why the papers were not supplied with the puppy.  I knew and agreed to have them sent at a later date. *EDITED TO ADD* Wait......DNA is done before the litter is BORN?  My impression is that it can be done after the birth, but that it just needs to be done before the litter and subsequently individual puppies, can be registered...

Chaz why do you "always laugh at these"?  That's an honest question, I am confused by your statement.  Papers were not supplied at time of puppy delivery/pick up because sire had to have DNA test done as he was a German import.  With my other dog papers were mailed later so I did not know that it is not standard practice to reieve registration a few months down the road.  It was five months after I brought my other dog home that I got his CKC (Canadian Kennel Club) papers.  Obviously I was naieve and this is a HUGE lesson learned for me.  I will have in writing a satement as to when i can exect papers if i do not recieve them with the puppy.  Prior to my two youngest GSDs (both bought in 2010) I have never owned a registered dog despite having owned a number of GSDs....I am still learning.

  I made a mistake when I made the initial post, Janna was born in 2010 not 2009, she will be 2 a the end of June.  I thought I had corrected it, but I was on my phone so I guess it did no correct.

Edited again to ask**

So Janna is an AKC import (as I am in Canada).  IF I eventually were to breed her (no plans as of yet) do i have to have her DNA tested and then register her with the CKC?  Does she have "dual citizenchip" (LOL) then?  This is all new to me.  If I show her in a CKC Conformation event my sister said she would go into an import category?  Is that completely seperate from the other dogs, or is that just how she is registered wtih the show?  I am not sure she would win any conformation show but my daughter would like to handle her just to learn and for fun....my daughter is 8.  My sister was going to let my daughter use her Frenchie too.  She was going to start to take handling classes soon.

 ACCORDING TO AKC  rules in usa., the stud is DNA when used so many times a year  or if male has been studded a certain number of times by a certain age,,,,,NOT sure as been several yrs..


When a stud has completed so many litters, akc requires you to have him DNA before the next litter. If you do not do it, then in order to register said litter, you have to submit his DNA>  HOLDs up the litter until that time.

After DNA, not to prove anything but to be on file, then the litter is registered and papers issued..After that the stud can produce any number of litters.

An import has to be DNA before his papers or her papers are issued to new owner by AKC registering them in the USA>

  I have no idea about CKC

YR  

OK....I understand now.  Thanks YR for clarifying that.  I beleive that the stud was never used for an AKC dam prior to this litter as my breeder selected him for a client and imported him himself for the client, and thus used him as a stud for his own breeding program.  This is what I recall in conversation with the breeder.  So it would not be unusual in this case to not do the DNA work prior to breeding or birth of the litter.  Correct?

thanks YR, and everyone for taking the time to answer my *probably* amateur questions.  I still have a lot to learn and I want to be certain that this doesn't happen again.

When you import any dog  all have to be dna...
akc rule.


BUT when you breed you are aware of the rules and you have a log you keep ..AKC Rule> all BREEDINGS HAVE TO BE KEPT ON A LOG.

YOU KNOW how many times  X stud has been bred or used. After so many in a year or if not by year then so may before the age of AKC rule., you have to send in and get that X stud dna.

IF you do not, the minute you send for a litter registration, AKC sends  you a letter..sorry , but X stud needs to be DNA ed before we can register this litter.  As soon as we receive X studs dna test and process it, we will send the litter papers for this litter..

YOU cannot breed another litter with X stud until he is DNA. NOW if you own a male and only use him one, two or 3 times in his life time you do not need to DNA him by AKC rules.

BUT we do DNA our studs to prove we are responsible breeders especially if we own two , three or four or more males on our premises..IT IS A CASE  of , making sure no one questions you as to who the sire is of any litter you produce.

At any time , anyone buying a pup from you , may ask and request  a DNA proof that the pup is sired by X stud or Y stud..IF you do not want to do it,  you soon loose your reputation

YR

thanks, that was an excellent explanation of the DNA process.  I was unclear as to what exactly the DNA process was.

I am happy to report that the signed transfer of ownership were in my mailbox today.  Now I can breathe easy knowing that Janna is registered and MY dog!!

Despite all of the back and forth on this forum, I am grateful for all of the great information I have recieved.  I have had GSDs for 15 years now and still consider myself an amateur, and definitely where registered dogs are concerned.  I would not have known how to proceed had it not been for those who took the time out to provide information and/or private message me with helpful tips!!

Thanks again.  I am happy now!!

WOO HOO! And a Hallelujah!

I love a good dog story with a happy ending!!