Roach Back vs Straight Back - show - Page 2

the working line does also have a roached back not just the showlines and they are more so now than just 15 years ago

The V154 dog in 2011 would have been my VA1 dog. 

Although i didnt go thru all the V rated dogs but did go thru all the VA dogs. 

Skylagsd, I don't know what that dog looks like, but can only guess it has a straight back and much less hind leg angulation. Also, I would venture to say that dog is NOT the one every one flocks to with their females, even though he is probably the most correct. People are going to breed to the dog the JUDGES choose, propagating the horrendous conformation seen in the popup adds for puppies and young dogs on here.

I'm totally with GSDGuy. I can't stand the roached back look

HERE WE GO AGAIN.

Dogs home, it's occurring in working lines as well. Not picking on show lines --the roach back should not be prevalent in ANY GSD.

joanro, exactly, and it's unfortunate.  There "are" some good looking/good structured show lines....and some terrible ones as well, just as with more and more working lines now.  An ad I looked at earlier though for a show line litter...the sire looked to have a nice structure, not much of a slope......but the dam, the back started to slope from the neck.....and then partial ways down it just took a sharp angle on the last half of the back. In no way was that normal or because of the stack, it just looked really bad. No matter how that dog would stand, the last half of the back would be stomped down" in looks, so to speak. If I had the ad up still I'd post the picture of it.

Did you guys look at the site he linked? LOL you are seriously getting trolled.

8) Body

The body length should exceed the height at the withers. It shouldamount to about 110 to 117% of the height at the witthers. Dogs with a short, square or tall build are undesirable.
The chest is deep (approximately 45 to 48% of the height at the withers) but not too wide. The underchest should be as long as possible and pronounced.
The ribs should be well formed and long, neither barrel shaped nor too flat. They should reach the sternum, which is at the same level as the elbows. A correctly formed rib cage allows the elbows freedom of movement when the dogs trots. A too round rib cage disrupts the motion of the elbows and causes them to turn out. A too flat rib cage draws the elbows in toward one another. The rib cage extends far back so that the loins are relatively short.
The abdomen is moderately tucked up. The back, including the loins, is straight and strongly developed yet not too long between the withers and the croup. The withers must be long and high, sloping slightly from front to rear, defined against the back into which it gently blends without breaking the topline. The loins must be wide, strong and well muscled.
The croup is long and slightly angled (approximately 23 degrees). The ileum and the sacrum are the foundation bones of the croup. Short, steep or flat croups are undesirable.

Who does like roach backs? No one I know. However, they win in the ring and that is the deciding factor for selecting breeding stock. 

Not all dogs with roach backs on photos stand that way naturally. I have the  Urma of one of my dogs that shows her with a slight roach. She didn't show that in person.  Also the ASL's are stretched to show an exagerated slope and most of them don't naturally stand that way either.