What does a straight back gsd and roach back dog look like - Page 2

Ibrahim, I have a whole collection  of dog photos which look almost as bad as that. Almost all of them come from the ads people post on this site. As a matter of fact, that same photo is one of the ones in my file.

If someone were trying to sell a dog, do you think they would not try to remove some of that arch if they were going to bother photoshopping?

Some people insist it's the stack, but a dog with a true roach will look even worse when stacked, as most people make the dog lower its hindquarters, thus exaggerating the roach.

As Linda Shaw says in the text that accompanies the diagrams I linked to, the roach is often accompanied by a steep croup.

The reverse is not always true, though. One of the worst, most deformed looking dogs in my file is not roached, but has a very horrible 'broken' topline, which the handler has made look even worse by placing him in an extreme stack!

Oh Sunsilver, I wish I never saw this last one it is even worse than the previous one, he really looks terrible, I only wish he doesn't have pain in his spine, the poor thing, no animal deserves to come to life with such a abnormal back, that is an ill extreme.

Ibrahim

Sunsilver, wow I've never seen that pic before, I'm saving it for my collection also. 
I'd love to see your whole collection of pics.  I have a huge collection too, I'm putting mine on a restricted access website (have to have a code to view the pages)  When It's halfway finished I'll share the code with you and we can swap pics for our personal education. 

One of my pups from my stock. Her mom is even less angulated (even though she is not) but a little angulation is good in the back legs for performance. When I say a little, I really mean what most people would consider no angulation at all. She is American line x czech.
Stephanie 

One of my females (above) with a slight roach.  My male (below) with a straight back.

My youngest female with a straight back.

Ibrahim, that's the logical result of breeding extreme to extreme. There are a lot of good SL dog's out there, but they are usually the ones over looked by judges.

The over angulated GSD wins the show. Then the owners parade their winning dogs around in front of people who are not aware of what to look at in the breed and think that they do not like the GSD because the ones who win shows are walking around dragging thier back feet from over anulation.
Drives me crazy!
We not only need to address this issue of roached backs but when you look closely at an over angulated dog, you will see it can't pick up its back feet properly.

that I agree with joanro and I am pro educating new members as well as older members on the correct structure of the GSD and I value your contribution on this issue, what I don't agree to is generalization which may lead to assuming all showlines or working lines are incorrect in structure.

Ibrahim