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myret

by myret on 20 April 2012 - 18:04

vomeisenhaus

what do you know what I do may I aks ??? no I dont have alot of titles on my own dogs but I do have a few on my own not the pup

as I read in this forum the danish people are alot better at titling their dogs that in the states if you are from the states many titel their dogs in schh or PH very fast

you dont have to have much experience to see the gsd in alot of dogs that does not own much drive I prefer a mal more and more they do have drive not like these cheep talk working dogs as gsd breeders like to tell that their high drive dogs have and when you see them on the field nothing special about them

myret

by myret on 20 April 2012 - 18:04

vomeisenhaus

I have not got any video and as I read I have not written anything about any french dogs in this post
 but let me see all your crazy drive schh dogs in video as far as I know not many of you in here shows videos of your dogs so why should I ??

I have never written that my new pup is better than any of your schh dogs but I see alot of them on the field here and well lets just say I prefer a mali they have drive and dont have to be lifted in their drives all the time as the gsd

myret

by myret on 20 April 2012 - 18:04

Vomeisenhaus

as far as titling dogs I read the post here what people here have achieved on this forum  and not many here have even titled their dogs with a schh 1 even less a schh 3

myret

by myret on 20 April 2012 - 18:04

I have never said that I have acchieved alot but litle I do have

adult male  titled PH here and a title as security working dog , and a OB he has won and became number two

female almost ready for her PH title, she already has titled schh 1, UHP , FP , she is also acchieved a security title as a security dog security title is Obedience and defense of the handler and

the litle guy , won a litle competition as best working dog  in the PH training field at 14 weeks we competed against adult dogs and older pups he was the only pup that could focus on the OB work even better than the older adult dogs this litle cometition may not mean anything yes ,but it proved he already had drives and could keep himself focused on work many of the others could not he has otherwise got alot of praise from peolple that have seen him because they say he has very nice drive for that young pups

by joanro on 20 April 2012 - 19:04

myret, it's very commendable that your dogs are doing well for you. But, unless you have seen all the working dogs out here, it's better not to lump them all together and trash talk them in general. There are lots of WDs that don't need to be worked up constantly to keep them in drive. Maybe where you train that could be the case. I have a young female in training for schH that has plenty of drive and doesn't have to be hammered at to focus or continually pumped up to maintain drive.In her video she is only fourteen months old and in training for only two weeks. If you want to see the video for reference sake, I'll pm you how to find it. I'm not ashamed to make it public here on the forum, but I doubt many people reading on here could give a hoot what my dogs are all about.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 20 April 2012 - 23:04

BOWLING was the whitetrash sport I was admitting to be pretty darn good at. It was a joke.  

Chaz Reinhold

by Chaz Reinhold on 20 April 2012 - 23:04

I'm good at jarts. Just saying.

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 21 April 2012 - 03:04

What is this thread about again?  I thought the Nascar and noodlin' threads were in the OT section. 

Oh wait, I see it's another any crappy GSD can get a SchH title and all SchH titled dogs are weak, lazy and worthless.  Mali's are better, because every Mali is a super, clear headed, high drive, nerves of steel dog. 

I am in the selection process and looking for a green dog for our K-9 unit.  The dog is going to be a dual purpose Patrol / Narcotics K-9 with a new handler when it finishes training.  I tested 6 dogs last week from two vendors.  3 Mali's, 2 GSD's and a  Dutch Shepherd.  Out of the 6 dogs the Dutch Shepherd tested the best and won the initial selection process only to be ruled out by our vet for a marginal hip.  Of the 3 Mali's two were very weak, the weakest of the 6 dogs.  High drive with poor nerves or no commitment to the fight.  One Mali was super strong and super possessive of his toy or prey object.  I liked that dog alot, but during testing he hospitalized the handler who tried to take his toy away.  One GSD just didn't impress me as having the level of aggression I want.  The last GSD was the second pick after the Dutch Shepherd, but was too soft for my liking but a very nice dog.  This GSd and the Dutchie will make nice Police dogs for a different department.  Hopefully more dogs come in so I can find a suitable dog. 

The point is dogs are dogs and there is good and bad in every breed.  If you can read dogs you can certainly watch a SchH trial, tracking, OB and protection work and tell who the really good dogs are from the really well trained dogs.  If nothing else it gives you a standardized arena to evaluate dogs, if you know what you are looking at.  It helps to have titled a few dogs to be able understand the differences between good training and good dogs. 



by Super Para on 21 April 2012 - 08:04

Slamdunc, Spot on there pal!!



myret

by myret on 21 April 2012 - 17:04

well it was not me  started this discussion again I just wrote that we here in Denmark have the SV rules and I did not think it is seperating the good dogs from the bad one have never mentioned schh or nothing like ut until vomeisenhaus got personal


lets just say that it does not matter if someone has never trained a dog to see or have an opnion about what they like in dogs does not take 40 schh titles to see





 


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