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GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 14 June 2013 - 23:06

Confused Smile Roll eyes

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 15 June 2013 - 06:06

Jim-I am sorry, I was not trying to drag you into this, then or now.
At the time I mentioned you, I believe I just felt it unfair that Prager was being portrayed in a non flattering way regarding his care of his dogs and I remembered you were there and I believe at that time you were reccomending Prager and his dogs (I could be wrong, thats been known to happen once or twice).
I do not know Prager other than what I read here, but for years I have looked at him as a sincere, knowledgable dog person and think just because people unassociate, that what they once felt would change.
I threw you in that mix only because you also are a very knowledgable dog person whose opinion holds water.
I was just trying to be fair and level the field on that tooic, at that time.
As for today, "I know nothing,...nothing".

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 15 June 2013 - 10:06

Kitkat,
No problem at all, I know that your intentions were good.    Teeth Smile

Maybe, we can get back to the original topic of the OP's thread.  I think this thread has been hijacked enough.  If Michael Cox comes back and wants to update us on his dog and training a new thread might be in order. Just a thought.

Prager

by Prager on 15 June 2013 - 15:06

What ever Jim. I will defend myself anyway I see fit.  For that  I do not need your advice nor your  perpetual snarky remarks nor  I will stay  for your constant bullying of me no matter what I say. You are not THE King of PDB you know.   If anybody is trying  too hard it is you to show  that you are permanently right. Your way or highway. But remember this is not a highway and this is not a  traffic stop  and I do not need to kiss your butt here,  or say :"Yes  Sir" to every self righteous remarks you are so good to generate.   
Hans

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 15 June 2013 - 15:06

Thanks for the laugh.  Good one.   Roll eyes

MichaelCox

by MichaelCox on 15 June 2013 - 16:06

Okay everyone,
I think I need to jump in here, can we please get back on topic? First, Jim is correct I do call it like I see it; it's a Marine thing! I started this thread because I for one like reading detailed post of past/present experiences from other people. I find them very helpful when I'm researching a new hobby/interest. And because of that I make threads/posts on many of the forums I belong to. As I said before I wasn't digging at anyone or trying to bash anyone to slit them. I was simply stating MY OPINION! In America we still have the right to do so (at least for the moment).

Hans replied to what I posted and defended himself which I have no issues with him doing. I don't agree but it's his right to do so, not trying to take that away from him. However what I don't appreciate is Hans coming on here and making this seven (7) month old thread all about him! I said what I said I'm not taking it back just move on. According to Hans I'm some POS noob that has a bad reputation, so at that point why keep bantering back and forth?!...

There are a few members on this board that I very much respect and appreciate Jim being one of those people so I don't want to see him getting into a pissing contest either. So Hans or whoever say your piece and then move on or stay on topic. At this point I think the mods should just close the damn thang because obviously Hans isn't mature enough to just move on!

Jesus Christ it's getting to the point where you can't say anything for fear that this person or that person will get their little feelings hurt! Grow the hell up, everyone is not going to like you or the way you do things; that's life! If you haven't figured that out by now there's no hope for you. And if you believe everyone loves you, you're a fool!

If the shoe fits...

Prager

by Prager on 15 June 2013 - 19:06

At this point I was hoping that this thread have run it's course. But I guess not.
  Michael Cox,  FYI I came on this thread now after 7 mo only because I was told by someone just now,  that there is thread  here talking about me. As some have noticed  I do not get involved here as  much as I used to  any more, because of ad hominem attacks nature of this forum. I come here  only when there is straight non conflict topic like reading hips where I may be of help to someone, which I enjoy or someone is compelled to talk about me in negative way. Then I show up here to defend myself. Wouldn't you? Obviously you would, because you do now.  That you are honorable attest to me one little point and that is that you post under your actual name and not as cowardly anonymous poster. I respect that.
Thus this  is not about feelings "getting hurt"( as you say) but about reputation and honor. I respect you as a Marine and you are obviously honorable and care about your reputation.  Thus I hope that you accept that not only Marines are honorable and have right to defend their reputation,  but that non Marines also care about their reputation and honor. 
That said  I was only pointing out that to splatter on internet negative post on  several reputable outfits only  based on anecdotal short visit  or 1 or 2 e mails  ( Eurosport) or action which you do not understand ( like not showing you a kennel ( K9 speciallist) ) is not  necessarily depicting the complete truth  nor it is very helpful to others in their evaluation of their future place to buy a dog.  On top of it, it   is hurtful, insulting and damaging. How would you feel if I would talk about Marines ( you being one) in negative way based on some negative anecdotal  experience?  Would you let it fly? I bet not.  You do not strike as such person. Thus keep in mind that pressure generates counter pressure and that things have direct and most importantly indirect consequences. I hope you understand where I am coming from and we can leave it at that. 
I hope......
Prager Hans

MichaelCox

by MichaelCox on 15 June 2013 - 22:06

Fair enough Hans, I see your point I don't necessarily agree about the part of the post not being helpful but can see from your side how you would feel that way.

I honestly wasn't trying to bash you it is/was simply an opinion. I am letting this go now and will not comment further about it as it will/could only go down hill from here, So as a gesture of goodwill I humbly ask that you please accept my apologie's for any damage or loss I may have caused you. 

Sincerely,
Michael

by vk4gsd on 15 June 2013 - 23:06

come on guys group hugs, this dog thing is supposed to be fun, there are actually some real problems out there in the real world that could benefit from your collective smarts, honor, integrity, pride, feelings and all that.

i am not a marine or a dog breeder, just some opinionated joe-schmo nobody with an attitude who likes dogs.

lighten up





 


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