changing the stacking pose of the german shepherd?? - Page 23

thank's for the laugh Ibrahim. with that color, must be a s/l.

"Form follows function."

So, you're saying an American SL that's as extreme as possible at both ends, AND a heavy, stallion-type German show line would both be able to work all day without tiring?

Sorry, I don't agree!

Some of the 'forms' breeders have come up with for the show ring have come close to ruining the breed (and I'm thinking of other breeds here, not just GSDs.)  But I have talked to breeders who left the GSD breed because the American dogs were getting so badly screwed up and unhealthy during the '80s. One lady said one of her dogs broke its leg just running down a slope.  Yeah...form follow function. You breed dogs with feet the size of 50 cent pieces, and you get a leg that's to fragile to bear weight without breaking!
 

\\good one Rik. GSD Lineage I have an account on facebook and people post and share lots of things

i try to understand the modern shepherd and its breeders but when i see a picture like this i just can't help  and ask.........

what is wrong with the way this dog looks and is stacked?? i am still a shepherd fan but is it me or does this shepherd and its pose not look regal and athletic??        http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=472842




 

SS, what's the function of a show line?
What does it take to exhibit extreme side gait trotting around a ring, leaning into and being supported by a collar/lead.
There ya go....form follows function. Who said anything about the form of an extreme anything, being capable of working all day?

What about the wolf?

No one really knows for sure which came first in the GSD world either -  form or function. Do they? Did Max et al breed for a dog that could tend  regardless of its conformation or a dog with correct conformation thinking it would be a better tending dog?  No extreme dogs back then? I don't know, does anyone? As with everything GSD, in the end it all comes down to personal interpretations and likes.

good point blitzen.............. i guess the goal is to produce the best structure for the job........and the rest follows.

i guess they were trying to build conformity..............a dog built a certain way is best suited for the all day work............although maybe there are more then on type of structure that can do the job?

plus their is always the dogs character, temperament and  desire to work mixed in all this.......
 

Oh, excuse me, Joanro, apparently I had the mistaken idea that the breed standard still says something about German shepherd showlines actually being able to WORK! 

Ok, Sunsilver, without getting into a pissing match, have you ever seen an ASL that had to prove it can work all day? What the standard says, and whether or not the SL follow it to a tee are two very different things. The SLs are bred for extreme side gait, therefore, form follows function. PS. I haven't noticed where the breed standard differentiates SL from any other GSD.

No, it certainly does not. Which is why I put 'form follows function' right up there with that other time-honoured untruth the show people use to deceive themselves: "OUR dogs follow the breed standard, so they HAVE to be correct!"

Yeah, breed standard as interpreted by WHO??