A new bomber breeding from Parrish - Page 2

Parrish has himself some "awesome" female dogs, of course as well as Bomber.
I am certain we are going to be seeing, and hearing lots of great dogs coming through his kennel.

If I was looking for another pup, I'd be getting on the waiting list for this one. 

Thank you guys for your opinions.  I got my deposit in before posting so I am at the front of the line.  Thanks for all of the feedback and messages.  I am going to be taking a male out of this breeding after a lot of thought.  I really wanted a female but with me having a female already that I do not intend to spay anytime soon I decided a male would be best to keep the house peaceful.

The only way you will hear about great dogs from Bomber is if they end up in the hands of people who know what they are doing and get the dogs out and compete. This dog was bred a lot in Europe but where are all of the great dogs out of him? Probably at some local club with a happy owner who just wanted to title a dog. People may never know how good some of his offspring are because the majority don't end up in competition homes. If Bomber was not a solid black dog he would not have had the stud career he had in Europe. There are definitely more accomplished Vito sons like Zico and Hank. To my knowledge Bomber never even competed at a LGA let alone the BSP or WUSV, That's no knock on him it's just the hands he wound up in or the goals or capabilities of that owner.

ejax

You need to check your facts. Look and see how many progeny of Bomber were in the BSP. Black has nothing to do with it. I will look again but I believe his breed book was full just after his SCHH I was completed. Tell me about a black dog has done that, in fact tell me about any dog that has done that. Correct me if I am wrong but I do not think being black helps in a dogs working ability.

Have you seen him work? Have you even seen him? Have you ever seen a single progeny out of him? Look up his accomplishments before you say he has none.

Paul,
I did not say he had no accomplished offspring, I said Zico and Hank are more accomplished working dogs. Don't get bent out of shape because you purchased one of Bomber's puppies. Also I have seen several of his offspring before he ever came to America. Have you ever been to Germany? Do you know what's popular in Shepherds in that country? I have been numerous times dating all of the way back to 1990 and a V rated solid black stud dog is very popular. Solid black puppies are in high demand. Bomber's color has nothing to do with his working ability but it has a lot to do with his popularity as a stud dog. Check the facts, what working events did Bomber compete in? Was he at the LGA, BSP, WUSV in any year? Zico and Hank both have been in multiple years, thus making them more accomplished Vito sons. In fact Hank won the BSP and WUSV in 2012. That's no knock against Bomber, those are just the facts. Yes I have seen him work. He was also at a friend of mine's place in Arkansas recently at a seminar and I was given a very non biased opinion of him from an international competitor. I would have a two year old Bomber son from Belgium if the breeding had taken, so I have no ax to grind but I would like you to tell me what his working accomplishments are?  Look up his accomplishments before you try to imply that he has any. Check the facts and read more carefully before you try to suggest he is even in the same league as Zico and Hank as a working dog. Don't let buying a puppy blind you from the truth!!!

Congratulations on your new pup.  I know I would love to have a Bomber pup and hopefully by next year I will be able to get one.
 

ejax

I am not bent out of shape at all. I did check the facts, and why do you think he did not compete in BSP, LGA? He did not need to. He filled his breed book not because of color but because his working ability and he is prepotent.  I have not looked at what Zico and Hank have produced but I am willing to bet they do not hold a light to Bomber.

I am not Bomber blind. I do like the dog, BUT the female I have, best cut the grade and it is a high grade or she will not stay in my life. The biggest thing that impressed me was his hardness and I have no doubt he will put hardness back in the breed.

I am not impressed with sport dogs at all, but titles is a necessary  component of breeding. The dog that wins the BSP would not interest me at all I require a much more serious type of animal.
You and I are just looking at two different types of dogs and I think Bomber will produce both.

I hope your day is great.

Actually Bombers breed book was full and they have him I believe a +25 dog a year increase which had never happened from what I had heard (a local SCH trainer here who has competed at BSP told me this). They are not going to do this for a dog with so so working ability. There are a ton of solid black dogs out there.   Because a dog did not compete at this show or this competition does not mean he could not have done it it just means the owner went a different route.  He has been bred enough and has produced enough solid dogs all the hype is/was correct

Paul and Troopscott,
How would Bomber's working ability be tested if he did not compete? Who was the judge of this ability? Was it the judge at a very weak Kor Klasse event? There is a big difference between club trialing and entering a crowded stadium with all kinds of distractions at a major event. Competing at the highest levels tests many attributes in a dog that club trialing can mask. His gene pool through Vito is the same as Zico and Hank but they are tested under this pressure. They did go through all aspects of testing the working Shepherd under the SV/WUSV system. Bomber has not. There has to be some reason the owner chose not to enter a dog with such hardness and working ability in the major competitions. At least the LGA that would have been in his region of the country. Paul, it is easy to see he never competed, all you have to do is check the trial results and you will not find his name. I am not saying the winner of the BSP is going to be the best producer. Blacky won the 92' BSP and his brother Barry produced better and was bred more often. Let me ask this question, why would a Vito son who didn't compete be bred more than two who competed at the highest levels, whose working abilities were on display for the world to see? Yes Troopscott there are a lot of black dogs out there but how many of them are Vito sons? For either of you to discount the fact that his color played a huge role in his breeding numbers is short sighted. He offers great genetics and pigment to a bitch who may lack both.Breeders in Europe love dark pigmentation in their dogs and it's hard to get much darker than him. Back to one of my earlier comments, who evaluated this dogs working ability? Who was it that said it wasn't so so? This not so so ability was never on display for the masses to evaluate. Because the dog did not compete at  a high level doesn't mean he couldn't have? That's like saying because I'm not a professional athlete doesn't mean I couldn't have been. I just wanted to go a different route forsaking the millions of dollars potentially available. I'm not knocking the dog and I'm sure with that many breedings he is bound to have some offspring that do something. It just cracks me up how the flavor of the month crowd jump on the bandwagon. Go back and look at his stud book and tell me how many of the top working kennels bred to him in Europe. I don't know for sure but I have a guess. With that being said, the truth shall make you free. Paul enjoy your pup and I hope to see her out somewhere at a trial. Troopscott best to you and your endeavors with the breed.