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by vk4gsd on 25 June 2013 - 21:06

first some qualifiers: gsd breeder i aint, expert on the breed nope, have i fell in love with the breed since owning one sure.

have i lots of practical experience working dogs of any and no breed, pound mutts, rescues, planned mixes, purebreds.... in extreme environments/conditions/physical capacity - i'm your freaking god.

so the peeps that keep harping on about the structure of the gsd is to enable it to trot all day i won't argue you, you are too far gone and know nothing of which you speak, i will ask you tho to show by analogy/example with other breeds of dog or any other animal, extinct or not, domestic or wild that has the characteristic modern gsd shape that trots all day (or even a gsd that does trot all day that has this modern preferred shape as seen in the show ring).


yr first problem should you choose this mission will be to find and define an example of the gsd that is generally accepted as a true representative of the of the breed - good luck with that.
 

Markobytes

by Markobytes on 25 June 2013 - 22:06

You are not my god, are you posting while intoxicated?

by vk4gsd on 25 June 2013 - 22:06

ok skip that part of the post, what about the question.

by joanro on 25 June 2013 - 22:06

Hyena. Close as I can think of. The African hunting dog also known as painted dog, is an endurance master, but is moderate in structure compared to hyena. Hyena is not a canid, but related to weasel.
African hunting dog,to me resembles the moderate structured GSD, with longer legs.

by vk4gsd on 25 June 2013 - 23:06

thanks for examples, not sure if many breed aficionados would like it tho. not real familiar with hyena hunting i thought they were mainly scavengers, why do you say they are particularly noted to trot long distances?

now from the domestic dog world?

dragonfry

by dragonfry on 25 June 2013 - 23:06

The hyena is a excellent trotter and often run their pray to death. Lions are more scavengers then hyenas. Not the other way around.
But lets face it heyans are butt ugly animals and the very last of their kind. I think there are 3 types left in Africa? The rest have gone extinct.
I'd say that todays modern show line crippled back shepherd is about as affective a trotter as saying the expensive plastic bolt on after market boobs make girls better in bed. Both are completely artificial, man made and in reality not as cool as they seem.
I'd much rather a natural dog and i'll stick to my natural boobs that my mom gave me. :p
Fry

by vk4gsd on 25 June 2013 - 23:06

i just watched some vids of hyenas, what i seen there preferred ground covering gait is a slow lope like a western style quarter horse in a western pleasure event. did not seem to trot that much at all from my limited observations??? anyhoo, canines?

dragonfry - i don't believe what you said re yr natural boobs, you can only settle this by posting a vid or pics.

by SitasMom on 25 June 2013 - 23:06

Prehistoric horses Hyracotherium were similar.
Rounded back, sloping shoulder, lots of hind angulation - shoulder was lower and neck longer to enable grazing though.

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 25 June 2013 - 23:06

I like to watch Nat Geo Wild. A pack of hyenas is capable of bringing down a Cape buffalo!

Nope, they are pretty darn effective hunters!

To get back to dogs: the husky is probably the endurance athlete of the dog world. They have short, straight backs, but generally lope rather than trot.

Greyhounds (built for speed) have curved backs so the rear feet can reach far forward at a gallop, and the whole spine serves as a spring, coiling and uncoiling to provide a very long stride.

The only other domestic animal I can think of that's bred specifically to trot is the standardbred race horse:http://www.equiworld.com/ssa/standardbred/index.htm

The Standardbred has a long, sloping, strong shoulder, long, high croup, short back and a bottom line that is much longer than the top line. The chest is deep and thick, and the ribs well-sprung. Muscling is heavy and long, allowing a long, fluid stride. The neck should be slightly arched, lean and muscular, and medium-to-long; the throatlatch clean and the head carried either high or at a moderate level; the withers well-defined and extending well back beyond the top of the shoulder. The legs are hard and very correct in their action with muscling both inside and out. The hocks are wide, deep and clean. The hooves are large, tough and durable

Trotting and pacing are balanced gaits; the horse in action should appear well balanced front to back.
 



 

by vk4gsd on 25 June 2013 - 23:06

almost extinct hyenas and pre-historic horses......

 





 


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