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criselhausGSD

by criselhausGSD on 06 February 2016 - 22:02

Are you talking about pacing? Where both sides move together with a 2 beat movement? Like a pacer in horse racing? I do believe it is a fault and my dog was faulted in the show ring for this movement. It was a hot day and dogs will often gate if they are tired, sore or just trying to save energy. They can travel a greater distance in a shorter amount of time this way.

by Ibrahim on 06 February 2016 - 23:02

No not pacing but trotting and a beautiful effortless one, I wish the videos played fine

by Nans gsd on 07 February 2016 - 00:02

You see more of that effortless trotting in the "show dogs" American that is; but I have also seen it in others. Love that effortless movement also, and really that is how they are supposed to move "effortless" like they could go all day long without tiring. Hard to come by these days, but it is out there. Watch upcoming Westminster shows, GSD's as well as other breeds and look for it. Sporting, working, and herding should have some. Judges love it as it truly makes a beautiful presentation for spectators and for camera. Nan

 

PS:  all dogs, breeds, etc. need to be able to pace as that is their "go to" trot is they are tiring. 


by Ibrahim on 07 February 2016 - 00:02

Thanks Nan

by joanro on 07 February 2016 - 17:02

Ten month old trotting....with a bucket obscuring her vision An imageAn image

 same female


by Ibrahim on 07 February 2016 - 21:02

"With a bucket obscuring her vision". Maybe that is why she is making a very good front reach Teeth Smile

 

2 + 2 are not equaling 4 in your GSD. Her front leg is making a better open and front reach than expected. Something does not ad up here (same goes for Xeph's dog).

This is same dog I told you lacks rear angulation?

Do you have a picture that shows her forequarter angulation better than this one?.

 


by Ibrahim on 07 February 2016 - 21:02

These days I am reading Linda's Shaw book. There are so many points I don't agree on with her, but one of them, after seeing your dog's reach, I have to relook into further for better understanding, probably she is right !!!
Interesting picture Joanro


by joanro on 07 February 2016 - 21:02

Ibrahim, this is littermate sister to the one you refer to as too little rear angulation.
I'll look for another pic.

Dawulf

by Dawulf on 07 February 2016 - 22:02

Very pretty movement on your female, Joan, I bet she has a very effortless, smooth trot when truly in motion (not just a still picture).

 

Wolves will often still get all four feet off the ground. I have hung out with enough of them, and taken enough pictures of them while in motion to know this, so it does not surprise me at all to see a "squarer built"/less angulated GSD still achieving very beautiful movement. Not many of today's humpback showlines can achieve that.

 

I've always loved watching my Qira trotting around, she moves very effortlessly and smoothly, and has some lovely structure in my opinion. And her elbows are messed up!

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(first two pics are at age 5, 3rd pic is from last summer, just shy of 8... after playing with my moms pup for most of the morning)


by Ibrahim on 07 February 2016 - 22:02

For the sake of learning

That dog in Joanro's picture in full trot extension shot
1. Shows excellent elbow open, better than any current VA dog
2. Shows very good front leg reach
(as per what is being taught by conformation experts, her front angulation + fore chest development do not suggest she is capable of that)
3. Shows excellent rear leg extension, better than any current VA dog and this correct rear extension is rarely found in modern GSD, her well laid croup and lack of enough rear angulation support that.

4. The dog does not show sufficient under reach and that is natural with less rear angulation.






 


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