by NatureDragon on 25 March 2020 - 01:03
Do GSD's have blue eyes if they are liver coated?
by GraysHome on 25 March 2020 - 01:03
by NatureDragon on 25 March 2020 - 03:03
by Hundmutter on 25 March 2020 - 03:03
Nature Dragon : Money !!! (Attracting customers who care more for the 'novel' than the regular variety.) Or the sort of mentality that cannot leave anything alone without wanting to change it to what they see as preferable.
Grays Home: What part of the German Shepherd Dog breed Standard allows for blue eyes or white faces ???
A Liver dog should still have brown eyes; some in practice are actually so light they are yellow, but that is just part of the problem with producing the dilute colours.
by DuganVomEichenluft on 25 March 2020 - 08:03
I don't think that's what Grays Home was talking about. I think they are just referring to the OP question. Or in the event the dog is not to standard.
by NatureDragon on 25 March 2020 - 09:03
by Sunsilver on 25 March 2020 - 10:03
NatureDragon, the Panda gene has been thoroughly investigated, and was proved to be a mutation that arose in a single dog (Frankie) that was the offspring of two registered German Shepherds. It's a dominant gene, and is lethal in its homozygous form - there are no double Pandas, all are heterozygous for the Panda gene.
There are other instances of Panda shepherds having been born, but breeders of these dogs were dedicated to the breed standard, and neutered them and sold them as pets. In the old days, these pups would have just quietly 'disappeared', if you get what I mean.
But yeah, if an animal has a white patch next to an eye, it's quite common for the eye to be blue instead of brown. I've often seen it with horses, too.
by Hundmutter on 25 March 2020 - 10:03
I am not in a position to follow just how much this is also true of other countries than my own, but find it hard to believe that, if researched, the problem is not just as much the case in e.g. the USA. I am just grateful that for the moment at least Panda sales are not 'catching on' here at the same rate as they seem to have been in the States, despite what Sunsilver indicates.
by NatureDragon on 25 March 2020 - 21:03
by Sunsilver on 26 March 2020 - 04:03
"despite what Sunsilver indicates."
Hund, I think you misunderstood me. I know Pandas have become a big thing in the States, yes. But prior to Frankie, they weren't, though long-time breeders sometimes could remember one popping up in a litter, and either being culled or sold as a pet.
I DO remember that when Frankie was first mentioned on this board, many people INSISTED the dog couldn't possibly be purebred, and another dog must have hopped the fence, and mated with her. Of course, genetic testing proved this was wrong.
I look at some of the Pandas advertised for sale now, and certainly go "hmmm...wonder just what genetic testing would show on THAT dog!" If they ARE purebred, they certainly aren't well bred!