How should I introduce a new adult Rottie female to the one I already have? - Page 2

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by hexe on 31 December 2015 - 07:12

SS, I agree with your suggestion about muzzles, but generally speaking, most dogs aren't accustomed to wearing one, so that just ups the stress level for both...that's something I'm going to acclimate all the dogs I ever have to wearing, just in case there's ever a need for it.

yogidog

by yogidog on 31 December 2015 - 08:12

Sagey I'm not a fan of leaving 2 bitches together at all but especially breeding bitches. Ss to muzzle a new dog that comes into your family stress levels will b to high that's no way to introduce dogs.as I said separate pen's or don't get an other bitch sooner or later these dogs will fighting started off with rotties iv had this problem iv had a rottie and an American bulldog fighting when I was younger it's hard to c the damage they do to each other and even harder to brake take my advice keep them separate

by sagey on 31 December 2015 - 12:12

I see, yogidog, so you are talking about 2 Rottweiler bitches. I am not very familiar with that breed, never having taken care of one in my pet-sitting business when I had one or ever having someone come for training classes with one.
As far as GSDs, I have been a multi-dog household for over 16 years now, with an average of 3 females living together, although we have had as many as 5 and 6 at times when there as an overlap, and typically 1 male, but sometimes 2 and even 3 males. Everyone has always been intact. I have never spayed/neutered a dog in my life, nor would I unless I had a medical reason to do so. In the last 16 years, we had a total of 3 fights between the females. And once they were over, that particular female pair never fought again because I made it clear that behavior was not acceptable. The only time the dogs are separated is at night when they each sleep in their crate, or when I don't want a female bred, in which case she and the male have to take turns going into the pen area of the yard I specifically set up for that purpose. So in the world of GSDs, and most dogs really, intact males and females can and do live together without being separated by fencing, etc. In fact, going to places like Cost Rica, many European countries (although I haven't been in a while now and I think that is changing there, but no sure) most of the pet population is not spayed/neutered yet one sees the dogs being quite peaceful and social when meeting each other out and about. Dogs are pack animals, after all, and are meant to live together. I do, however, do good, solid obedience training with every dog we own and I think that makes a huge difference in how dogs behave with each other.
I also never had a male mark inside the house which someone mentioned that their male did. I think a male marking in the house is an anomaly; I know quite a few people with intact males living in the home with them and none of them mark in the house.
Happy New Year, everyone!

aaykay

by aaykay on 31 December 2015 - 12:12

I would keep 2 females (breed independent) separate and it does not matter if it is a mother-daughter pair or a sibling pair. Female-female fights are vicious and you will have a dead dog in no time. They might get along for weeks or months and then the fight could break out with no warning. As others advised above, keep them separate.

yogidog

by yogidog on 31 December 2015 - 12:12

Sagey it doesn't matter what the breed rottie to lab male are normally better together unless there is a reason for conflict but what u have is dominance with strong obidence witch is needed over any pack locking the up at night is the responsible thing to do because the dominant leader is away u will sometimes get dog's trying to take over at that time happy new year to all

by sagey on 01 January 2016 - 21:01

I don't crate the dogs at night to avoid fights among them; I crate them because as well trained and respectful as they are, there seems to be a little gremlin whispering in their ears during those quiet nighttime hours, telling them it is okay to get up on the furniture. In the daytime, I can leave them alone for a few hours with no one getting up on the couches. Nighttime seems to have one or more of the group having trouble resisting that temptation. But they do not need supervision to be peaceful together. During the day, too, they spend many hours outside in the yard, unsupervised. They are also fine together even when the females all go into season, which, as with bitches will happen, they come to be synchronized with and tend to do as a group. If I had to be vigilant and assert my team leadership all the time to avoid fights, I would not have this set-up and wouldn't have multiple dogs since it would be too stressful to always have to watch to avoid fights.
How we all live together does not work with every dog, of course. We have gotten a few dogs in over the years that were just not good about living in a group like that and spent a lot of time trying to challenge and instigate a few of the others into a fight, even after I did solid basic obedience training with the dog. It needs to be the right dogs. But I have found it generally easy to find the right ones in that regard, and once I do, and they also meet all the other criteria I look for as far as conformation and health, they stay with us for years, often until passing.
Since many people read these threads, I just wanted to point out that it is quite doable to have an all intact group of dogs living peacefully together. It has to be the right dogs and I believe they all need good basic obedience training since good training is about much more than just teaching a dog commands, but also about having a dog go from a reactive animal to a mindful one, as well as opening up wide the line of calm and clear communication and respect between owner and dog. With the right dogs and good training, it is a pleasure to have that kind of set-up. As I already mentioned, we have been doing so for over 16 years, and for us it has been a wonderful way to live with our dogs.





 


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