some thoughts on inherited/genetic character vs. environmental trained - Page 8

Me either. If you are proud of what you produced, you don't hide it.

ValK I was not under the impression you had encyclopedic answers on the GSD. I also did not think you currently owned a GSD, which you confirmed. I did find interesting some of your posts regarding history of the communist border dogs.
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Certainly not a requirement to own a GSD to discuss other people’s dogs or the breed in general, nor is video/photographic evidence if one does - but we can sure learn a little something about each other by the type of dogs we own and advocate.
 

Two of mine; lol both can be SOBs at times.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2929805-mighty-beowulf

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/belgian_malinois/dog.html?id=2722231-machine-gunner

GK1, actually, both are SOB's all the time if you think about it.....

well, praying I don't  make anyone notorious but  (one pic only) this bitch in the pedigree of Beowulf (sp) really stands out.

sorry if I offended anyone, she just jumped out at me.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=612571-krista-od-policie-ceske-republiky

 

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I still can't get into Czechs. I've met some nice ones, but I stick with what I know. Since we are sharing pedigrees, these are my dogs :)

Athos

Champ

DeJa

This is a daughter of Champ I got instead of a stud fee: Tequila

She is every bit as hard as he is. Crazy hunt drive at just 4 months old. I really like her.
 

This is the pedigree of the litter I have on the ground right now  G Litter von den Sturmfalken

 

I like my west german dogs, specifically if I can breed back into my parents bloodlines. :)

Having a pup from 9 weeks to now her issues are genetic plain and simple. Since a pup to now 7mo she has gotten better but still has issues and will always have issues. I kept saying she is a baby she will get better.
I exposed her to everything I could seeing her temperament as a baby it’s helped but you can’t change genetics. Now to figure out what to with her as far as keeping her who knows.

That's so sad. I hate when people have to go through this. People should be able to enjoy their dogs. I see so many families that sometimes, quite literally, live in a nightmare because of the dog, but they are so committed that it's heartbreaking.

It’s heart breaking. Sport is nothing but a hobby but if I can’t take my dog to places, boating hiking festivals what kind of life is that for a dog. If the right home comes along knowing her genetics great if not she will stay with me. Either way she will continue training.

jetta, no idea where you are at with this dog but can assure you I have been at this point several times.

I had goals, the dog did not meet those goals.

I never abandoned a one of them, never put one to sleep, some I returned to breeder, some I found lifetime homes much better than me. the last one just passed this year @ 13 y.o. so I do not need any advice from the fakers here who never set or met/pursed goals.

only advice I have is stay true to your goals (whatever that direction is) and do the best possible for the dog.

jmo,
Rik