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by vomeisenhaus on 28 February 2012 - 21:02
by Gusmanda on 28 February 2012 - 21:02
Thanks, gharsha. Do you know if that book is still available?
Hey Blitzen, yes, it is available on amazon and dogwise. Very interesting read.
by Blitzen on 28 February 2012 - 22:02
by Blitzen on 28 February 2012 - 22:02
I guess we can all agree that most of the Capt's breeding mandates would not fly today. Culling litters, keeping no more than 2 brood bitches, etc. nothing most I know would ever do.
I was happy to read vomeisenhaus' post saying that there are dogs today that are as good or better than those in the day. Maybe we do tend to romanticize the past a little too much. I am always impressed when my "Review" arrives; the first thing I look for is the listing of GSD's with new AKC performance titles. Many well known kennels are breeding these dogs - workinglines, showlines, Am showlines and combos.
We just held our trial, had a nice mix of GSL's and WL's and my 3/4 ASL, the odd dog out LOL. At the end of the day we had 1 new IP01, 3 IPO2, 2 IPO3. 3, 4 BH's, 7 AD's. Everyone was excited for the handlers and the dogs. I just love it when the dogs and people I train with do well.
by Gustav on 28 February 2012 - 22:02
by gharsha on 28 February 2012 - 23:02
The conclusion then is: If the Capt. was alive today, it would matter as much now as it did when the Nazi's took control of most of Eroupe in the 30's - zero.
by Rass on 29 February 2012 - 00:02
Doesn't mean I am going to breed them (not going to). It also does not mean I don't love them and give them the best care. Does not mean they do not work (they do). Obedience, Tracking and so forth. Good dogs but not good BREEDING dogs as they lack all the components of GSD drives and temperament (nerve and courage).
I HAD a dog the Captain WOULD have approved of.. she was all you could ever ask for though a bit over size. She had the "right stuff" in every way.. and courage, nerver, hunt and fight drives and totally obedient. She was wonderful. She was born in 1992.. lived to be nearly 14.
I did not breed her either.. and she is one that should have been bred!
The dogs we OWN may not be dogs that should be BRED. The dogs we OWN may not be the best examples of the breed. Doesn't mean we don't like the dogs we OWN.
by vomeisenhaus on 29 February 2012 - 04:02
by Mackenzie on 29 February 2012 - 12:02
When will people learn that not all dogs are suitable for breeding? Also, not all dogs are suitable for work in the owners preference for work e.g. Sch h. So much, for a working dog, depends on the trainers skills and, many cast offs for Schh may be competent in another discipline. Owners must have an open mind as to which discipline is best suited for their dog. No dog is born with the skills that are demanded of them any more than our children are born to be brain surgeons.
What does a title establish? Simple. It establishes that the dog has learning power and then it is for the trainers to nurture the best attributes of the animal to enable the dog to reach higher levels. It also establishes that for one day only it is competent to pass the test in whatever discipline it is entered. That is not when the training stops. It is a continual process throughout the dogs working life. When a dog fails then look at yourselves first, that could easily be the reason.
Not all dogs will perform consistently at the top level but a pass in any test means that at whatever score the dog is competent.
Mackenzie
by Blitzen on 29 February 2012 - 13:02
Mackenzie, IMO the Capt would like that post.
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