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by magdalenasins on 06 July 2012 - 22:07
by djc on 07 July 2012 - 01:07
Dog "trainers" are a dime a dozen. For every trainer out there you will have a differing opinion on something. The social aggression stats come from WORLD competitors/winners, and street dog/police trainers, not just everyday sch trainers. I'm always up for learning and these many and varied trainers have taught me to be able to see the difference in dogs reacting out of fear and dogs that are strong and confident. Sometimes it can be very hard to differentiate as many of these dogs put on a good show. Very similar to a dog putting on a good show behind a fence. I will say it again, a strong confident dog WILL NOT be inappropriately aggressive. Those that are are pure and simply trying to chase away something that they fear. So, if you think that's not correct, Gustav, I'd love to learn what your thoughts are.
Debby
by Gustav on 07 July 2012 - 03:07
by maywood on 07 July 2012 - 03:07
It's easy! Plain and simple, never hit the dog or try to dominate them. They instinctively know you are the alpha and no amount of beating on them will instill that any further. You have to be confident and secure in yourself and the dog will pick up on that and act accordingly.
Also, this is not a shepherd thing it is a basic dog thing. Dog's observe us much more than we observe them, so much so you won't even realize it. A dog will only be as confident as the owner I have noticed. Socialization has nothing to do with it.
by Rass on 07 July 2012 - 12:07
Confidence is largely GENETIC. Start with good Genes.. BOTH sire and Dam.. and you are on the right road.
Poor confidence that is genetic can be HELPED with socialization and proper handling but you cannot CREATE a confident dog solely by training.
It is "in there" or not.
by Gustav on 07 July 2012 - 16:07
by Chaz Reinhold on 07 July 2012 - 16:07
by Red Sable on 07 July 2012 - 16:07
Rass, right on.
Debby, how many dogs have you had that matched your definition of confident? "a strong confident dog WILL NOT be inappropriately aggressive"
I've had one like that. He was a dominant dog, and I'd love another like him, however, they are few and far between, I've found.
I've also had the opposite, one who'd run when confronted by a stranger. Socialization may help, but will not ever make a dog like that confident. Put him in a new situation, and he'd be back where he started.
I also disagree that a confident dog will not be inappropriately aggressive in all situations. Inappropriate to who? To man or the dog?
Some dogs such as the one I have now, just dislikes men (she has reason however) and will not permit them on the property unannounced. Once they are off (which is usually pretty quickly), she is fine. I would not call her a fearful dog AT ALL. She attacks head on, and shows plenty of fight drive without any training. I'm thinking the 'send' is genetic too.
She is fine with women, but men to her are evil.
As Rass stated quite eloquently, confidence is largely genetic, and I've had enough GSD's to know they are not all the same in the confidence department.
In my early years, I never socialized because I used to think socializing would make them too accepting of strangers, however, time and different dogs have shown me, it really has little to do with it. It is either there or not.
Those who think it is crucial must have nerve bags for dogs IMO.
by Rass on 07 July 2012 - 18:07
by Gustav on 07 July 2012 - 22:07
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