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by maywood on 18 June 2012 - 01:06
Vianden, thanks for the pictures as they are very nice and so is your dog. But that sure looks like a show line shepherd to me from those pictures. Wouldn’t surprise me at all your girl has some showline in her background. Also, take a look at the dogs that compete for the Herding titles at the Sieger Show. Interestingly enough, most of them are showline as well.
As I said before, I am sure there are some working lines that can do this type of work but it is definitely the exception and not the rule. But I am just sharing with you all my own experiences, take it or leave it, I don’t really give a crap if you believe or not. I know what I know.
by Felloffher on 18 June 2012 - 01:06
Maywood,
Did you get into the sauce a little early this afternoon?
by GSDguy08 on 18 June 2012 - 01:06
by EuroShepherd on 18 June 2012 - 01:06
Felloffher, methinks she's been into it the whole time. I'm still waiting for photos of what she considers to be the ideal showline dog.
So Eddie, quite a wild hijacking for you, huh?
by maywood on 18 June 2012 - 01:06
GSDGuy that owns mostly siberian huskies – still haven’t really figured out why you even post so much on a german shepherd dog board, but anyway. The valid point is that running around a ring is not what you think it is. It is a very intensive examination of the dog’s endurance. Go to any German style show and watch the breathing patterns of the show lines compared to the few working lines that sometimes get entered. You will see with your own eyes how the working lines will be panting up a storm about to fall over from exhaustion when its over. This is ultimately why they don’t place so well, not because they are ugly.
EuroShepherd – I’m a dude not a dudette. The greatest show line trotter I have ever seen with my own two eyes was Yasko Farbenspiel. But one had to see him perform to truly believe it. I am not even about to try to convince you of this.
Sorry for the hijacking, but I sure hope we are all learning something of value today.
by GSDguy08 on 18 June 2012 - 02:06
by maywood on 18 June 2012 - 02:06
by fasteddielv on 18 June 2012 - 02:06
Maywood, your experiences are as I said, far from the norm. Maybe you had some less than normal WL shepherds, I've been into Shepherds for five years other than in my youth. I've done SchH during this time, I can only remeber one WL that was out of shape. But the handler didn't do much with the dog and she was a bit out of shape herself. Other than SchH training one or two nights a week, I don't think the dog got out much.
I think if you gradually run/bike with a dog, keep it motivated, most could do an hour or more GSD or not, WL or SL. The dogs gotta want to do it, the drive has to be there, most WL have the drive, SL well some do, some don't.
For you to think you brought out a bright light for everyone to see is a bit of a stretch to say the least.
by SKI on 18 June 2012 - 02:06
That is not 100% correct. The problem is that a lot of working line people (and some show) do not ring train and road work the dogs prior to showing. Dogs are not trained for showing.
Some judges run the dogs and some do not; I have been to both types of shows.
I have seen dogs from both lines falling down in the front due to no work done prior to. It is not based on lines; it is based on work prior to showing and running.
by macrowe1 on 18 June 2012 - 02:06
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