IPO stick attack to disappear? - Page 10

Blitzen, I agree with you and its this very same vision that has and will continue to destroy all working dog breeds and reduce them to the Froo Froo pets.
Once again, the end is near, forget the stick and jump and all that happy horseshit, the end of all working dogs is near because society has become too pussyfied to accept dogs that can actually work.
 

so what if people enjoy the sport?  SO what if some weaker dogs do?  IPO has evolved and yet is is still the same.  It's a fairly popular sport as far as bite sports are considered and it's not a weekend get together to test dogs on a neutral field with dogs and handlers that spend the rest of their days working in some other capacity.  Today people train their dogs a couple times a week for 2-5 years before they step foot on a trial field.  When you train for the test,it ceases to be a test, it's a competition.

It still can be a test, but that test comes in training.  I can tell in almost every instance a dog that is going to have a stick issue long before the stick is even raised.  and with almost all but the most nervy of shitters, I can train them thru it too, to pass a test, railroad spike driving hits or not.

The first couple times a dog sees something it may be a "test".  After it's done it 10 thousand times it can hardly be called a test.

Now all you just waiting to pounce on the piss on IPO wagon, because I'm not saying IPO is worthless.  I think it is very valuable.  Those simple exercises can tell you so much about a dog and what it has inside of it.  But the person doing the assessing must be honest with what they see and what went into that dog.  In the end that's all that matters.

I don't care what kind of dog you want personally, get it, love it, enjoy it, live the hell out of life with it.  If some weaker dogs are at training every week and their handlers are having fun as well as their dogs, who cares?  why should I?  They don't need to be there.  They don't need to be helping put on trials.  They don't need to be supporting our clubs, trials, sports, fellow dogs and handlers.  They don't have to be doing anything at all.  They don't even need that silly piece of paper that says IPO I to breed their less than acceptable dogs either.  They can sit in a lawn chair smoking cigarettes, drinking cheap whiskey and produce more dogs than any of us would ever care to see and all that's required is for their dogs to have the parts necessary.  and they can register them too :)

In both cases, or all cases, if the person is honest with what they have, everyone can enjoy  their dogs like nobody's business and none of them ever need to be bred.  I'd rather have those people out training with me every weekend, than somewhere else getting fed a load of bullshit about their dogs, no matter how to standard or not they are.

can't we all just get along?  who said it? To focus on one issue is dead wrong for our breed! I can think of one direction of breeding which focuses only on side gait, another on extreme size [ small or large] , The strength of the breed is a gene pool which can do many tasks. Would our breed be stronger if we worked together? we may never know.

Exactly, Hired Dog. Stick hits, etc will be moot points then. Is it too late to save the sport?

Huh?

Sorry to you guys that think that a dog exposed to stressors is a bad thing, I,ll train my way and you train yours. The same dogs that I train also sleeps in my bed and eats off my forks and goes every where with me in the public eye Nursing homes, Schools, Holiday events, also do S&R Schutzhund and work in police depts. There great examples of the breed! I don,t hide my training and find non of it abusive.

You can make snide remarks and comments all you want i,m proud of my dogs they can go on any field with any helper familiar or strange and work well. I guess thats supposed to be a bad thing well not in my or many others eye,s.

The next time your at training look around you and take a good look at what your doing. Is your training bringing about the best qualities of your dog ? or are you just "Playing" ? Hell some people even get stinking drunk swilling booze at training that is a wonderful example for the activities to high lite. I don,t live thru my dogs I live with my dogs!

Bob, "when the final bell sounds", there will still be strong dogs out there. you think just because my show dog came off the sleeve, the end is near? Actually ,your posts about wanting your dogs pounded "like driving a railroad spike" will cause the end of bite sports, not my dog that loved to do sch routine.

, Hired Dog. I can't even use a prong while CDX training  my AKC  CH without someone asking me if it doesn't hurt her. So now I wait til dusk and train on an empty golf course.  Doing any sort of protection training would be impossible where I live.

Bob, it's not a matter of not wanting you to feel proud of your dogs, it's about using discretion on an internet board that is available to everyone. I've had dogs for many years and am not a bleeding heart by any mean, but I'll admit that when I read your statement about pounding railroad spikes I cringed. I can't imagine how that would sound to a PETA supporter.