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DebiSue

by DebiSue on 03 January 2010 - 11:01

Margaret and Grif,

Mr. Reid had the chance to take this dog back and it didn't happen.  The situation required immediate attention which is why Steph now has the dog.  Mr. Reid may be a wonderful breeder/person but he obviously doesn't do a good job of screening his buyers or he would have suggested they get a golden or a lab.  These people obviously know nothing about a GSD and should never have been sold one, puppy or trained adult (unless it was trained as a companion dog only).  He got his money and the dog is in a safe place.  The owners should just write it off as a lesson learned, too bad they are out the money but they should also have done some research before going out and buying a GSD. 

Deb

sueincc

by sueincc on 03 January 2010 - 12:01

Let me get this straight Ray Reid:  You offer an unconditional 2 year guarantee but instead of ending the relationship by taking back the pup and refunding the money, you want us to believe that out of the "goodness of your heart" you  gave a customer with MS this much more expensive dog (apparently a green dog with issues), and you think this is a good reason to ignore the fact that this dog is too much for the lady.......and for STeph to have to step up and fix this situation??????  Unbelievable  TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS AND STOP BLAMING OTHER PEOPLE 

Ray Reid stop making stupid excuses, do the right thing and send a check for the board and care of this dog. 


BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 03 January 2010 - 15:01

Some of these not 4 profit Rescue organizations are showing a pattern .. that's for sure.

So, how much is this dog gonna be sold 4 ? .. beings the pedigree seems more important than going after kids. (it took 114 posts to even get a mention of going after kids)

Mr. Reid, find your bill of sale, and go get this dog.


DebiSue

by DebiSue on 03 January 2010 - 15:01

BabyEagle4U,

Do the research and figure it out.  What pattern are you talking about?  Have you even looked at her website?

Pedigree being more important than the kids?  Steph was just sharing some info to show that not just BYB dogs are ending up in shelters.

Sheesh!  As far as what this dog is going to be sold for, what does it matter to you?  You planning on stepping up and adopting this dog?  If not then what's it to you?  Steph doesn't sell her rescues to just anyone.  If Steph knows you, knows what kind of home you would give this dog and especially if another dog was needing rescued, there is no doubt in my mind the dog would be given away. 

Let me repeat this since you seem to have it in your head that Steph is making money on these dogs.  I have no doubt she would give it away if it is in the best interest of the dogs!  Not that I would ever, EVER take a dog from a rescue for free when I know how much it costs to feed several dogs and to have them spayed or neutered.  Plus any additional medical expenses incurred when trying to heal what often happens when a dog is no longer wanted before it can be rescued.  (Like amputations and other surgeries) PLUS the cost of transporation to and from picking up the dog and to and from its new home.  Let's not forget the cost of vaccinations, heartworm treatment, normal healthcare, crates, fences etc. and so forth. 
 
I think you have a lot of nerve to question someone who has devoted her own time and her own money in rescuing dogs regardless of their pedigree.  Why don't you open your wallet and send a nice fat donation her way to help her feed these dogs instead of barking up the wrong tree?  I think it is time for you to either put up or shut up!

Deb



sueincc

by sueincc on 03 January 2010 - 15:01

BE, the dog is NUETERED, even if his pedigree was a great pedigree it wouldn't add a penny to his value since he is not capable of reproducing (duh).  Also many good people on this board know Stephanie first hand, and can vouch for her and her rescue.  Sorry but I'll take their word for it over your baseless suspicions EVERY time. 

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 03 January 2010 - 16:01

I'm just reading this thread and reply according to what I read. Sorry you feel that way.

Sooo, how much is this dog being sold 4 ? This is what I want know, I want know how Rescues put a price tag on "rescues".

Especially when they list on petfinder before they have the dog.

I'm just wondering, this thread is a good way for me to understand this and ask questions, that's all.






by Goose on 03 January 2010 - 16:01

One, I trust Steph. This is based on following her many posts and struggles to work in rescue.
Two,  I don't care why and how but, rescues are overflowing with dogs. There is hardly ever a time when I walk into the shelters around here that there are not almost 25% of dogs that are very clearly purebred. Not to mention all the great mutts.
Three, without people like Steph, there would be even more dogs put down as not all shelters have rescues working with them. Heck, and even if they do, there is never enough.

As far as the "pricing" of rescues. Different rescues have different policies. But most simply try to cover the basic vet bills and try to keep their door open. Closed doors - no rescues.
There are a few rescues around here that do charge up to $350 for a dog. High you say? Maybe, but look at it this way, those dogs are fully vaccinated, spayed and neutered and overall fully vetted. So by the time you add it up, still cheaper than a pup from a breeder. And most of those groups also utilize foster homes and can give lots of info on the dog in question. Which is not always possible (obviously) at a shelter.
And then there are private individuals that take a dog, pull if from a shelter or assist an owner in need to rehome a dog, and they will take the dogs and pay all of the vetting out of their own pocket. One dog at a time. And don't ask for anything but a good home. My last two adopters gave a voluntary donation.
Is everyone that claims to be a rescue or rescuer a great place or person? Of course not.
But doesn't that also apply for breeders or importers? Or sadly, even owners?

Unfortunately there is a need for rescues. Fortunately they do offer hope and help. And I am certain that they would love to see thier loads lighten, if everyone was to practice responsible pet ownership.

THANKS STEPH FOR ALL YOU DO!

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 03 January 2010 - 17:01

 I think you have a lot of nerve to question someone who has devoted her own time and her own money in rescuing dogs regardless of their pedigree. Why don't you open your wallet and send a nice fat donation her way to help her feed these dogs instead of barking up the wrong tree? I think it is time for you to either put up or shut up!

Deb


Very well said, Deb! AMEN! 

I might not have put it quite so politely, though!

by hodie on 03 January 2010 - 17:01



BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 03 January 2010 - 17:01

* "There are a few rescues around here that do charge up to $350 for a dog. High you say? Maybe, but look at it this way, those dogs are fully vaccinated, spayed and neutered and overall fully vetted. So by the time you add it up, still cheaper than a pup from a breeder. And most of those groups also utilize foster homes and can give lots of info on the dog in question." *

-- I don't think 350.00 is high to be honest.
Especially in this dogs case. Maybe this Reid messed up selling a higher priced worthy dog to someone looking for trained  but not the risk, after the puppy deal fell threw. Maybe there's a good reason this dog warned the husband. Maybe Maybe Maybe

Yes, Steph did the right thing by taking this dog in the situation posted above, but she should do the right thing and return the dog, not make excuses of why not too ... not everyone can handle a Bad Boll, evidently.

I'm not trying to be confrontational, without this thread someone reading the PetFinder ad, really doesn't have the whole story. I browse PetFinder all the time and send moneys to certain dogs, but now that I know (because of this thread) how Rescues get these dogs and how the breeder/seller is shuned .. I'll pay alittle more attention. I would much rather pay for the dogs return to Mr. Reid.








 


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