What should be expected of an ethical breeder? - Page 2

I just looked at this thread quickly,

But yes, one would hope that the breeder would be a tad bit more interested.

Was your dog ever tested for Lyme disease?

Kathy

I'm very sorry for your loss......

I would have hoped that your breeder would have taken a little more time to at least "act concerned/compassionate" about your situation to provide you with more than a one liner reply.  Yes I would have wanted to know the details of the condition and I would have contacted the other folks who had pups from that litter just as a precaution.  However it appears that this breeder took the defensive and likely assumed you were expecting something from her; which was not the case.  I have spoken to many good breeders who've shared strories with me regarding buyers contacting them with health issues from a pup they bred and they've always followed up with the others to make certain this was not a condition that genetically affected others in the litter.  Sometimes it is an isolated incident but as a breeder you'd think that anyone taking the time to offer you important information that would possibly affect your breeding program should be shown some appreciation.

But that is a prime example of those that love what they do and care about what they are doing vs. those that don't.  It's also possible the breeder is just not a very good "people person"???

In any event, I'm sorry for your loss.  Perhaps when you are done grieving Shelly may have a nice healthy female pup for you to love for many years.

I am sorry for your loss.  I hope the breeder takes more interest.

Michael, I am sorry for the loss of your girl. I hope you & Datscha can comfort each other. I hope things are going well for you otherwise. It's too bad that your girls' breeder was so callous.  An empathetic ear & a small modicum of concern can go such a long way when your heart is breaking. Good luck, & God bless. jackie harris 

The only thing you should expect from a breeder is what you have contracted for. Anything else is just customer service. Just because you don’t like the customer service does not make them bad people or unethical. Just bad business people.

I’m truly sorry for the loss of your puppy and know the heartache you’re going through.

I also am sorry for your loss, I have a 12 year old male out of one of Pam's past stud dogs (wasdy). 

I have emailed Pam a couple times and ya know, some people just are NOT email people.  What you may have perceived as rude, uninterested, I perceive as someone who is to the point, and probably isn't "into" the email thing.  I think if I were you I would have called her and maybe still do so. 

If she said the other littermates were fine, why not believe her? Because she was short, doesn't make it not so.

Anyway, I again, am very sorry for your loss at such a young age,  I also wonder if your dog was tested for Lyme, canine erhlichia and/or anaplasmosis?  I am in CT and all my dogs have tested high positive for anaplasmosis, my vets tell me it is most times impossible to see clinical signs and a dog can straight into renal failure with no warning.

Diane

I was wondering that same question Diane about the Lyme.

The clinic that at I work is in NJ and every year we see a handful of dogs that go into kidney failure from Lyme Disease.  They won't have any other clinical signs until it is too late and they are already in kidney failure.

Kathy

Michael, Sorry for your loss.  I agree with those that feel a definite etiology of the cause should be certain before we "assume" that this is genetic. I have heard many Vets make initial diagnoses and come to find out this wasn't the reason or illness at all. Things like lymes' disease can certainly cause renal failure, as can dietary issues, and other things that are not genetic. If you have evidence that this has happened in offspring of the mother or father besides your case that is one thing, but first I think that a definite causation for the renal failure has to be established before I would expect the breeder to start calling everybody that has a puppy out of these parents...JMO

I actually have an aussie who was very very sick about 4 years ago,,I did every test known to man on this dog, her ANA came back off the charts indicating Systemic Lupus, (ironically her littermate brother was having the exact same thing going on with him around the same time he also had the same ANA reading as mine)..Long story short,,unfortunately the littermate brother passed away within 6 months,,mine is healthy as a horse 4 years later..

Did she have lupus? I don't think so and neither do the vets, we think it was a tick born disease(th we kept coming up with negatives)  that sent her system into "whack mode",,she was also going into renal failure but was able to pull her out of that.. 

TIck disease in the northeast atleast,,is a real killer and very scary when you see no clinical signs and by the time you see something is wrong it's to late to pull them out of it..

Diane