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by starrchar on 01 May 2010 - 20:05
Re: Colloidal Silver- As Hodie mentioned, it can be toxic. I only use it on a very small area and for no more than 14 days at a time. I did this under the recommendation of my holistic vet, also a DVM.
Hodie, As always the fact that you so freely share your wealth of knowledge is greatly appreciated.
Char
Louise,
Did/do you have a dog with skin issues? Do you see a difference when using the ACV?
Hodie, As always the fact that you so freely share your wealth of knowledge is greatly appreciated.
Char
Louise,
Did/do you have a dog with skin issues? Do you see a difference when using the ACV?
by hodie on 01 May 2010 - 20:05
by vomzellmer on 01 May 2010 - 21:05
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by hodie on 01 May 2010 - 21:05
by Pharaoh on 01 May 2010 - 21:05
My first GSD had the same skin condition.
In the groin, bumps/hives and infecting his inner thighs, armpits and between his toes.
He was on prednisone and hydroxysine (sp), when his symptoms started in the beginning of the rainy season and cleared up at the end of the rainy season. I am in SF Bay Area so that was late fall through spring when the rains stop and there is no rain until it starts again in fall.
If I lived in a normal climate maybe it would have affected him all year round.
I had him allergy tested and he was allergic to mold, fungus, dust mites, soy, vegetable oils especially flax. All meats were OK.
So I change his diet to Anmar (owned by Natura) which was a very plan food and had no vegetable oils. Then, that food was discontinued. I also did not let him in the yard once the oak leaves started building up mold from the winter.
In desperation, I started feeding him raw at 5 1/2 years old as well as my other dog. His symptoms became much less. The next winter no prednisone and hydroxyzine as needed. The next winter, nothing at all and he lived his life till he died in his thriteenth year free of all allergies and the fur came back on his groin.
Pharaoh was itchy. I spent a lot of money at the vet. He got steroid shots and benadryl from the vet. I tested him for allergies and he was negative for everything. Eventually I found out that the shredded redwood fur bark that I had covered my hillside with for weed control breaks down and becomes micro splinters!!!!!!!!
I stopped the benadryl and I didn't let him in the yard any more. His itching had almost entirely stopped. I added Braggs Apple Cider vinegar to his water.
I knew that there was still something. I removed vegetable oils and flax from his diet. I also quit the Salmon Oil and occasionally give him canned sardines with no salt in water.
That seems to have worked. It has been a long time now.
Pharaoh has been raw fed with occasional kibble since he was 8 weeks old. Taste of the wild has one formula, wetlands, with no vegetable oil at all. It has chicken fat instead and fish meal. It does not make him itchy.
He now can run on the hillside because the grasses have covered the hill and I weed wack them the height of a lawn and leave the cuttings.
Good luck, don't give up.
Michele
In the groin, bumps/hives and infecting his inner thighs, armpits and between his toes.
He was on prednisone and hydroxysine (sp), when his symptoms started in the beginning of the rainy season and cleared up at the end of the rainy season. I am in SF Bay Area so that was late fall through spring when the rains stop and there is no rain until it starts again in fall.
If I lived in a normal climate maybe it would have affected him all year round.
I had him allergy tested and he was allergic to mold, fungus, dust mites, soy, vegetable oils especially flax. All meats were OK.
So I change his diet to Anmar (owned by Natura) which was a very plan food and had no vegetable oils. Then, that food was discontinued. I also did not let him in the yard once the oak leaves started building up mold from the winter.
In desperation, I started feeding him raw at 5 1/2 years old as well as my other dog. His symptoms became much less. The next winter no prednisone and hydroxyzine as needed. The next winter, nothing at all and he lived his life till he died in his thriteenth year free of all allergies and the fur came back on his groin.
Pharaoh was itchy. I spent a lot of money at the vet. He got steroid shots and benadryl from the vet. I tested him for allergies and he was negative for everything. Eventually I found out that the shredded redwood fur bark that I had covered my hillside with for weed control breaks down and becomes micro splinters!!!!!!!!
I stopped the benadryl and I didn't let him in the yard any more. His itching had almost entirely stopped. I added Braggs Apple Cider vinegar to his water.
I knew that there was still something. I removed vegetable oils and flax from his diet. I also quit the Salmon Oil and occasionally give him canned sardines with no salt in water.
That seems to have worked. It has been a long time now.
Pharaoh has been raw fed with occasional kibble since he was 8 weeks old. Taste of the wild has one formula, wetlands, with no vegetable oil at all. It has chicken fat instead and fish meal. It does not make him itchy.
He now can run on the hillside because the grasses have covered the hill and I weed wack them the height of a lawn and leave the cuttings.
Good luck, don't give up.
Michele
by starrchar on 02 May 2010 - 02:05
Quote from Hodie
"vomzellmer, It is CRITICAL that you get your dog dry if it gets wet. Is he normal coat length or long coated? Dogs don't like the dryer, but if some dogs don't get dried properly, they easily end up with skin problems. Staph infections easily result and off one goes to the races trying to figure out what is going wrong. The anit-fungal powder will be useful if there is a fungal infection, but a common powder might also work just as well if all you are doing is trying to help dry the dog.......
If possible, don't let the dog get wet....."
So true! I can definitely tell you that I have experienced this first hand also. You must dry your dog 100%!!!!! My girl is coated and yes, it takes a long time to dry her on the cool setting (which is a must with my girl), but it is well worth it. If I don't dry her completely I can be sure that she will breakout within a short period of time.
Pharaoh,
I so appreciate hearing of the experiences of others who have had success in dealing with skin issues. Since both you and Louise have recommended the ACV I think I am going to give it a try. My girl is 95% better than she was a year ago, but still slightly itchy at times. She hasn't been on meds for her skin in 6 months, but if I can help her even more I am going to try and do it. As Hodie said, when people try to do a lot of different things at once it is hard to know what helped and I am a perfect example of that :(. Now I am afraid to stop anything I am doing, although nothing I am doing is harmful. No harm in adding the ACV though.
It is interesting that you mention the fur growing back on your first GSD's groin when he started to get better. My girl also finally has hair on her groin area! Oh boy, the things that excite us.....
Thanks again for the encouraging information.
Char
"vomzellmer, It is CRITICAL that you get your dog dry if it gets wet. Is he normal coat length or long coated? Dogs don't like the dryer, but if some dogs don't get dried properly, they easily end up with skin problems. Staph infections easily result and off one goes to the races trying to figure out what is going wrong. The anit-fungal powder will be useful if there is a fungal infection, but a common powder might also work just as well if all you are doing is trying to help dry the dog.......
If possible, don't let the dog get wet....."
So true! I can definitely tell you that I have experienced this first hand also. You must dry your dog 100%!!!!! My girl is coated and yes, it takes a long time to dry her on the cool setting (which is a must with my girl), but it is well worth it. If I don't dry her completely I can be sure that she will breakout within a short period of time.
Pharaoh,
I so appreciate hearing of the experiences of others who have had success in dealing with skin issues. Since both you and Louise have recommended the ACV I think I am going to give it a try. My girl is 95% better than she was a year ago, but still slightly itchy at times. She hasn't been on meds for her skin in 6 months, but if I can help her even more I am going to try and do it. As Hodie said, when people try to do a lot of different things at once it is hard to know what helped and I am a perfect example of that :(. Now I am afraid to stop anything I am doing, although nothing I am doing is harmful. No harm in adding the ACV though.
It is interesting that you mention the fur growing back on your first GSD's groin when he started to get better. My girl also finally has hair on her groin area! Oh boy, the things that excite us.....
Thanks again for the encouraging information.
Char
by vomzellmer on 02 May 2010 - 06:05
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by Jyl on 02 May 2010 - 06:05
The salmon oil should really help. Just make sure it is wild alaskan salmon oil. The oil will help with the dry/dull coat he has. What food are you feeding again? I thought you said Eukanuba, but cant remember.
by Louise M. Penery on 02 May 2010 - 06:05
but a common powder might also work just as well if all you are doing is trying to help dry the dog.......If possible, don't let the dog get wet.....
Dog gets himself wet while grooming himself.
Dog gets himself wet while grooming himself.
by Red Sable on 02 May 2010 - 16:05
Hodie, what is up with deleting many of your posts on quite a few threads?
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