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by SitasMom on 21 June 2014 - 22:06
In Europe (not just Germany), to get a breed survey a dog must have
BH, AD, IPO1, passing hips/elbows and a show title of at least "good"
or
BH, HGH, passing hips/elbow, and a show title at least "good"
IPO is "police dog" title
HGH is "herding dog" title
The history of the GSD, the breed started as herding dogs and as pastures disapeared and the war(s) were fought, they became war (police) dogs. That is why there are 2 ways of obtaining a breed survey.
by SitasMom on 21 June 2014 - 22:06
GSD Linage - not ture, I was at a GSD speciality show a few years back and a WDA trial was held at the same time at the same venue. Show was indoors trial was outdoors. In between classes, demonstrations of obedience, tracking and protection work were preformed inside.
by Blitzen on 21 June 2014 - 23:06
I'm going to try to find out AKC's rules about holding an IPO trial along with an AKC specialty. Last I heard it was forbidden, but that may have changed. Sometimes it's about the location of each event that makes the difference. - will the trial be held at the same show site during the same time the AKC show is going on? If it's not the same site, maybe an ajacent one, then AKC wouldn't have anything to say. It might be a matter of semantics - shrug?
by Blitzen on 21 June 2014 - 23:06
Is there a link to the information you posted about the AKC and working titles, Kim?
by Blitzen on 22 June 2014 - 14:06
What does this mean?
FCI-CLASSIFICATION: Group 1 Sheepdogs and Cattle Dogs (except Swiss Mountain and Cattle Dogs).
Section 1 Sheepdogs. With working trial.
Does it mean the section 1 sheepdogs need to be from breeds that offer a working trial or breeds that have passed a working trial? Or none of the above.
by Richard Medlen on 22 June 2014 - 14:06
"IPO I, II or III" are not a police dog titles you have them confused with "DPO" which is the German National Police Dog title (Diensthund Pruefung Ordnung) . "IPO" means International Trial Rules and is somewhat a softening of the Schutzhund Trial Rules. IPO trial rules have existed for many years along with SchH titles but have essentially become the universal standard in the last few years thereby displacing the SchH titles.
by Blitzen on 22 June 2014 - 17:06
Anyone? Please?
What does this mean?
FCI-CLASSIFICATION: Group 1 Sheepdogs and Cattle Dogs (except Swiss Mountain and Cattle Dogs).
Section 1 Sheepdogs. With working trial.
Does it mean the section 1 sheepdogs need to be from breeds that offer a working trial or breeds that have passed a working trial? Or none of the above.
by Blitzen on 22 June 2014 - 20:06
Susie....you must know.
by SitasMom on 23 June 2014 - 01:06
The SV is the Kennel Club of the GSD.
The SV requires a working trial....SV stipulates what the working trial will be.
Rules and regulations of the working trial are on the FCI website.
The FCI collects pedigrees from all countries and/kennel clubs that have originated breeds.
The FCI classifies breed per the originating kennel club/country.
Its not that hard.
by Blitzen on 23 June 2014 - 13:06
I get all of that, honestly and I've seen the FCI rules regarding working dog trials. What I am trying to understand is what does Section 1 Sheepdogs. With working trial mean exactly. If it said "with working trial title" or "sheepdogs that have participated in and passed a working dog trial" , it would make sense to me.
The topic was why the FCI standard is better the the AKC one and I think it's important to understand what this means since this seems to be one of the main sticking points why the GSDCA working dog committee is "destined to fail". Maybe something was lost in translation?
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