Not sure if my dog is a GSD like I was told - Page 6

@BZCZ From AKC History on breeds. 

pure strain of Alaskan Malamute started in 1926.

https://www.akc.org/breeds/alaskan_malamute/history.cfm

Verein fur Deutsche Schaferhunde, the parent club of the breed founded in 1899 in Germany

https://www.akc.org/breeds/german_shepherd_dog/history.cfm

Hans,

Your info is only for purposes of AKC, not how old the breed is.

bz, akc does not represent the origin of any breed...further, akc acceptance does not indicate when a breed became pure. It only means that is when akc decided they could get enough registries of the "NEW" breed to make money by registering it.
And, yes, the malamute is centuries old, compared to the gsd's one.

OGBS you can genetically trace any breed back thousands of generations,  all the way to amphibians and worms and primordial ooze. . Or to wolf if you do not want to be as ridiculous as my statement above.  The question is are you talking genetics or pure breed registration.  Registration wise you are not right.  Genetically all dogs go to wolf thus you can not say one is older then other. That all have common ancestors. Wolf. ...At least that is the theory. 

Prager Hans

OBGS, exactly ! How many out crosses with other breeds could have been done above the artic circle, prior to1926, to prevent the breed from being PURE before akc came to the rescued and made it a PURE breed.

Joan  I am not trying to be negative just a decent question. How do you define origin of the pure breed or of a breed?   Rottweiler was Roman war dog -> back to mastiff ->back to wolf. Where do you draw the line.? AKC, German butchers, City of Rottweil, Romans, Tibetan mastiff -...........wolf?   I think what you are trying to say is that Malamute is closest to the ancient wolf by genetic short cut?  Yes? 

This is what an "oops I put my foot in my mouth" looks like on the internet.  Excuse and obsfucation of the facts and what was said.

 

Hans,

Yes, I agree that what you wrote is ridiculous!

Look at the history of the Klondike Gold Rush of 1896, or maybe you remember reading about it in the Prague Gazzette as a young boy.

Malamutes were used to haul materials for prospectors. This is fairly common knowledge.

When Adm Byrd began his expedition to the South Pole in 1928 do you think he would have trusted dogs just created 2 years prior??? Doubtful!

Ancient Dog Breeds, click here

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Did you forget to add the rest of the AKC info?

"The Alaskan Malamute, one of the oldest arctic sled dogs, was named after the native Innuit tribe called Mahlemuts. These people settled along the shores of Kotzebue Sound in the upper-western part of Alaska. The origin of these people and dogs has never been ascertained, but they were there for generations prior to the Asiatic sailors visiting the shores and returning to their homeland with stories of "native people using dogs to haul sledges."

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"Paul Voelker, one of the early Malamute breeders, believed the Alaskan Malamute to be the oldest breed on the North American continent and probably the breed longest associated with man. According to Voelker, bone and ivory carvings dated twelve to twenty thousand years old show the Malamute essentially as he is today."

click here

 

From The Kennel Club (of the UK):

"The Malamute is a Nordic-type dog who moved into the northern Polar regions when people began to occupy the land. The Mahlemut tribes were a hard-working and skilled Inuit (Eskimo) race who loved and cared for their dogs, which were first discovered by settlers in the 1750s. Though breed type was nearly lost by crossing with faster animals for sled racing, some Inuit continued to breed to type. Eventually promotion of the pure-bred Malamute was taken up by the American fancy."

No, im saying a breed is a distinct breed when it reproduces itself....the saluki, the akita, the Sheeba inu, the mastiff....all ancient breeds compared to the gsd. The saluki was not accepted as a breed by akc until 1929, the akita accepted by akc in 1972, etc. The beauceron was not accepted until 2007, even though reference is made to the breed by Max S in his book, The German Shepherd Dog. Akc is not a gauge by which to accurately judge the age of a breed. The basinji was not accepted until 1944, but is a very old breed from Africa that is so pure that in the70s, akc allowed UNREGISTERED, but pure Basinji's to be brought from Africa and bred to akc reg stock in an attempt to strengthen the existing, akc registered dogs, suffering from genetic poor health. So the basinji is obviously much older and was established as a breed long before akc even knew of their existence. The border collie is another breed which has been PURE hundreds of years before akc decided to recognise it as an established, pure breed, in 1995.
Humans have been breeding dogs which are PURE breeds for hundreds of years, many thousands of years removed from the wolf.....a pure breed can exist simply because there is isolation of a population with no mongrelisation possible.