NASS Results??? - Page 6

The timing has nothing to do with anything. The two events are as different as night and day. If the argument that the GSDCA stole entries from the WDA held any credibility we would see entries in the NASS catalog with dogs not shown and entries in the GSDCA catalog with those same dogs shown. Check it out. The number is really close to zero. You will see a little more than 5% of the dogs participating in both. That's not much of an overlap is it?

Let's look deeper at who entered. NASS had a large entry from the board members. GSDCA had Mort. Somebody do the math,,OK 34 of 123 is 27%. 27 percent of the NASS is WDA board members, .000something percent at the GSDCA. I'll leave it up to someone else to report how the WDA board member's dogs finished. Face it, the WDA is a happy club of members supporting the Board in their quest for achievement. It's all good and congratulations, you have your show and it's just the way you wanted it to be. I see nothing wrong with it, it is what it is.

A totally different group went to the GSDCA sieger show. There was one large kennel and they did not dominate the results. They have a great program, they have well trained quality dogs with good results. But there was competition. Competition from the little guys. Most all of the GSDCA entries are small groups or individuals.

It's two totally different sets of participants. One does not affect the other. Both shows could be the same weekend in the same city and the entries would not be affected more than 5%.

 

How are they different as night and day when they both use SV judges and follow the same rules?

The timing has much to do with it, Dog1, don't fool yourself.

Many wanted to attend both, but couldn't, they had to choose.

IMO - GSDCA was showing a shitpot full of poor sportsmanship to plan their show only one week from the other, especially after they already know the dates of the other!

And the beat goes on....my club is better than your club. Why can't one club just congratulate the other club for a show well done?  Competition makes everything better for everyone.

Blitzen, It has nothing to do with which club is better or worse, both shows could have had better attendance if the one club would have done what was best for the dogs and their owners, and chosen a weekend a month before or after the already scheduled show.

That did not happen, did it?

 

Many wanted to do both but had to choose? I'm not seeing it. Take me through the list of many. Who's on your list of 'Many'? I don't think there's a list. If you say there is, OK. Who's on it?

Dog1, I can tell you the people that will never go to another GSDCA Sieger show.....LOL

But if I do, they will be blacklisted.......

Kim, why don't  you ask Fasano why they picked that date? Could it have been because the GSDCA NS was scheduled the following week at the same location?  Could it have been because that is one of the premier and most popular dog show sites in the country and was booked for most other weekends before the snow seaon arrived? Were the hotels not available other dates? Vendors couldn't make it another time? The judges were not availabe? The SV suggested that date?  Maybe they tried to schedule their first Sieger so as to make it more convenient for their members who were going to their NS to see their first Sieger show and maybe even their first GSL dog and protection work?  The GSDCA has encouraged the breeding and exhibiting of both American and German dogs since I can remember.  Maybe some ASL people were also going to show at both shows and the GSDCA was more  concerned about making it more convenient for their members than worrying that it might lose some entries to NASS?  Getting real, scheduling their Sieger the same month as NASS was taking a chance that they might lose a few entries. I seriously doubt the intent was to poach entries from NASS, a show that is traditionally supported by GSL breeders with no interest whatsovever in entering anything supported by the GSDCA.

Blacklisted? By who? Are  you kidding?

So your list of 'Many' doesn't exist. Thanks for proving that. Now we don't have to listen how the GSDCA stole all the entries from the poor WDA anymore. Blah, blah, blah. Whew, glad that's over!

As far as your list of those that won't be going back to the GSDCA. Let's see. It's a small number to begin with. Hmmmmm. The people that went partially to the NASS but didn't want to jeopardize their GSDCA VA rating by exposing their dog to the politics of the WDA are probably not on that list. Those that came with a VA and high V that went away with much less than they came with probably aren't on the list either.

That leaves Bob. Is Bob your list?