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Gigante

by Gigante on 10 June 2016 - 14:06

@duke

That it does. I'm not sure what strengths might be derived from anonymity though unless attacking. It does offer superior position thats why its used.

Swarnendu

How come you deduce he is my superior.. ;)

"Can I not be a novice GSD enthusiast who wants to learn from the right person, but is confused who the right person is, because he is reading too many posts which are of no value to the topic"

Since you broached, the right person is irrelevant to me at least anyone training for a long time has some pearls to put in you pocket. I like taking what resonates with me from people that have had some success. At the end of the day I need alot tools, every dog is different and even very similar dogs may not respond to the same tool, the larger my toolbox the better.

You can choose to stop reading what does not resonate with you personally and move to what does. ;0

by duke1965 on 10 June 2016 - 14:06

Gigante, if not under alias a lot of comments wouldnot be made and alot of questions wouldnot be asked ,
I dont really remember why I put an alias, I believe it seemed like the thing to do back than, but most know who I am anyway






by Swarnendu on 10 June 2016 - 14:06

Gigante, I had assumed from noitsyou's posts, and also from your attempts to protect Hans, that you could be his follower.

I had also assumed from yours and Yogidogs posts tha noitsyou could be a troll.

So, it seems both my assumptions are incorrect.

Very nice advice you have given in your last paragraph.

Cannot say the same about noitsyou's last post. He/she is repeatedly trying to sale the same idea a la Goebbels, just like Hans would, and it's hypocrisy IMHO.

Gigante

by Gigante on 10 June 2016 - 14:06

Duke it was the thing, all forums were built on the idea of alias for the most part, when it started. I agree on the questions, its safe place for people to ask. Im not sure the trade off on the comments is worth it though.

Yes I think most do know you and anyone can find as I did, if interested. Its not the alias persay but the use as a hiding spot to say things a person would not say if they were not hiding, its that latitude.

@Swarnendu

Thanks

To be clear though, I dont protect things that dont need protecting and I dont follow things that seek followers. 
 


by Noitsyou on 10 June 2016 - 16:06

Any new people out there need to take note of something that just happened. A poster made a rather unpleasant attack, and failed to provide any substance to back it up.

Here is what Swanendu said, "Cannot say the same about noitsyou's last post. He/she is repeatedly trying to sale the same idea a la Goebbels, just like Hans would, and it's hypocrisy IMHO."

Being accused of being like Joseph Goebbels is a serious charge. But what proof has this poster provided to back it up? Oh, I'm trying to sell the same idea in the manner of Goebbels? The problem is that it is a claim which shows a lack of knowledge of what exactly Goebbels did. Goebbels is well known for saying that if a lie is told long enough, it becomes the truth. Interesting. What lie have I repeated? Swarnendu hasn't shown it. Also, Goebbels took a side. What side have I taken? What agenda am I pushing? The only thing I have said is that I want the facts to be known, something that Goebbels was against.

My advice to Swarnendu is that he/she learn history before using it in an analogy otherwise you have what happened here, that is, a history lesson gets taught and someone looks foolish and ignorant.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 10 June 2016 - 16:06

Oh dear - I suspect this thred is about to meet Godwin's Law.

by Swarnendu on 10 June 2016 - 16:06

So, Noitsyou also doesn't like criticism!!!

Could he be the alter ego of Prager Hans?

Gigante

by Gigante on 10 June 2016 - 17:06

Not quite as fresh anymore huh Hund. ;)

@Noitsyou

Trained under Jeff I see. One of his best skills is patience, setup then wait. Your pushing, which shortens your troll ability in any given forum. You were gaining traction with some and could have had followers & still may. My suggestion for you is to allow your setup to simmer longer your points without any reflection will seem more valid and you will have actual ammunition to work with rather then powder and no bullet.

Additionally all this note keeping nonsense stop that people dont want to search for a tablet and pen. If you make it hard for your followers with these types of requests you will only be hurting yourself.

Hope this helps and good luck on the next run. You may now practise without opposition from me. 


by Swarnendu on 10 June 2016 - 17:06

Let's try get this thread back in track.....do we get to see the proof now?

by Bavarian Wagon on 10 June 2016 - 17:06

I like anonymity, it reduces hero worship which as pointed out is many times unsubstantiated and has little real world proof to back up. Not saying that it is so in this case, but I’ve been on plenty of forums where those with the most posts are considered unquestionable and all-knowing even when most of their posts are “that’s a cute dog” type stuff. Anonymity also provides newer people to question things and people to read them more objectively without more experienced people dismissing the questions or statements due to the newer people’s lack of experience. It also provides protection from real world ramifications to online/theoretical discussions that might end up a little more heated than necessary. If we all had to use our real names and identities, we might end up in situations where due to who we questioned or who we supported online could negatively affect our real world chance to work/train together, with anonymity, there is a separation of our real world and our internet persona. I’ve actually seen how things said online have affected people in the real world (many times due to a misunderstanding of what is said) and I don’t believe that should occur as many times we are much more open to discussing training methodology on the internet and that should not be a reason why one person doesn’t work with another.





 


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