Dishonest GSD Breeders - Page 2

such cases should most definitely be taken through the SV, it can also be taken through the German court. Many Lawyers in Germany speak excellent ENGLISH.

If you have an issue with a purchase, a lawyer in Germany can assist in having the pedigree blocked for transfer of ownership to anyone other than the parties involved. The SV does not police agreements or discuss business conducted between two parties. Thats a buyer/seller responsibility.

When hiring a German lawyer be aware you must give them a power of attorney over ALL your assets. This situation alone has stopped some celebraties from filing law suits to expose the crooks and put them out of business. The individual can have all the documentation and can prove the misdeeds, but may not be willing to allow an attorney free range over all one's accounts. Any claims over a specific amount of money must be handled by an attorney and brought to the German court. (It use to be any amount over 10,000 DM ) The individual filing the claim has only 6 months from the time the incident occurred to file action in the German court. The crooks know this, so they use delay tactics so their client looses precious time in contesting the dishonest actions. You can still get an attorney and file a claim, but it will be thrown out of court if the violating has exceeded 6 months. You'll end up incurring attorney fees, mounting attorney's extra charges, court fees and frustration over the inability to get justice. Meanwhile the dishonest brokers and contacts in Germany keep your money, resell the dog and move on to the next client.

Excellent points Joanna. I did not persue my case of the paid for but never got, sold to someone else, puppy. It just wasn't economically feasable and worth the aggravation. So lesson learned. With all the discussion here about how organizations sould help, they can, you have to be willing to go the distance and know the situation. Best advice is still do your homework.

Last year I sold one of my breeding females to the USA. The buyers were afraid of what you¿re talking about. They had the same experience with a GSD seller in the United States. They sent the money and never received their dog. We finally found a very honest solution : The buyer sent the money to a person in Germany, they have known personally and in who they could trust. I met with this person at the airport. After they dog was given over to GK ( the company who shipped the dog ) I got the money. This was an honest way for both of us.

The best thing to do is to NEVER buy a dog from the net... theirs too many scammers out here that will take an advantage of your money. I would take the trip to Germany (If you really need to have an import) and SEE the person in person and the dog. This will cost extra but it's all worth it.

Unfortunately there are dishonest breeders everywhere. I had a written offer to buy a Orbit von Tronje puppy from a US breeder that I had known for years. They then tried to double the price. My lawyer said I had an air tight case as far as a law suite but it could take more than twenty thousand to enforce it. The AKC, WDA, USA, SV all say they do not want to get in the middle of contract disputes, but if these organizations won't step forward and police their own - is there any hope? Think about this - each bad experience that a buyer has with a breeder is a potentially lost pure bred dog enthusiast and a convert for the shelters!

I'm very scared by all this information. I'm a first time GSD buyer and I'm planning to import a dog from overseas. Could someone on this boeard guide me the do's and donts of impoorting a dog? What are the things to watch out for what are the paperworks involved? What all cre should I take thanks vikram

Vikram, why don't you buy an American bred dog from working lines? There are plenty of good GSD's being bred in this country, you don't need to import one. It's a myth. There are a number of working line people on this board who would help you out I think. Ask Kougar and Charlie Ivory to help you find a good breeder in your area. Not only can you go and see the breeder's dogs, the way they are kept and cared for, and assess their temperaments before you decide to buy one, you can also find a breeder who will help you with the training phase and breeding advice for the future. Training a GSD to a title is not something you can do on your own without support. Even the best breeder in Germany can only offer limited support.

Well, usually you are advised to deal through people you know and trust. But that does not work all the time either. Depending on what you are looking for, show or work or pet and what age,you would best be served by finding someone here in teh states who has a track record of importing and being satisfied with their contacts. Be aware that overseas pups most often do not come with a warrenty on hips - and if they do, you will be paying transport again which can run as much as the pups in some cases! Especially if you are charged to transport the pup to the airport. My first experience was with people I THOUGHT were friends. Much money spent and didn't get the dog they sent photos of. That dog is still in Germany and on the sellers website! Pedigree was of dog tehy sent. But photo and description was of other dog. Expensive lesson. Then after a trip to Europe, I made contact with a dealer who I felt was ethical and honest. Networked with other people in the US and AU who have dealt with him and find that all agree on his honest evaluations and good business sense. So, after a visit and many phone calls as well as emails, I have done several transactions with him and so far, am very happy with our relationship. Paperwork takes a long time. Get copies of everythign faxed if you are concerned....including hip certs and score books, show cards etc if older dog. If you are spending alot of money, they can spend the cost of a fax,even if they have to go to an outside service to send it.