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Naya's Mom

by Naya's Mom on 27 December 2007 - 00:12

With all of the heavy subjects flying around lately, I thought I'd add a question of my own; "Can Microchips cause cancer?" I personally microchip my dogs/puppies, and have called at least 10 different vets for their opinions on whether or not this might be possible. I would like some of the board's feedback on this, WITHOUT calling names, because lets face it, now that the Holidays are almost over, we're getting a bit snippy! (Yes, myself included) Please either post on here, or Private Message me. Thank you!

by ramgsd on 27 December 2007 - 00:12

only if they are microchiped and they are on their cell phones more than 2 hrs a day. LOL. sorry just had to say it.

by Preston on 27 December 2007 - 00:12

Try this reference for information: http://www.rense.com/general79/micro.htm Obviously this does not occur in 100% of those dogs chiped or even 10% so far. But if it is 1%, 2%,or even 5%, folks will want to klnow and take this risk into account. I for one will not use these anymore untuil the facts are in for long terms studies. Tatooing is not as practical but its still probably the best when considering all aspects. There is one Vet who is now researching the incidence of cancer occuring at the site of rabies vaccines in dogs. I once had a GSD that developed cancer at this site on his rear flank where he was last vaccinated and the cancer metasticized to other organs. When I heard of the research going on now, it really made me wonder since at the time, the location of the tumor where the cancer first appeared was so strange. Maybe it is just related to certain contaminated batches of rabies vaccine. I hope that is all. I have been told that rabies vaccine is somewhat neurotoxic to some dogs and should be given no more than necessary (once every 5-7 years). Problem is most ststaes require it every 2 years, some 3.

Bob-O

by Bob-O on 27 December 2007 - 00:12

The mircochip is encased in an inert material so there should be no reaction/immune response from the body. The microchip is what we call a "passive" radio circuit, i.e. there is no radio transmission from an implanted microchip unless it receives a radio transmission from an appropriate scanner (The scanner functions dually as a sending unit and a receiving unit). I do not know whether the waveform used is microwave or macrowave form, but that is rather immaterial. I would think if the dog was subject to the radiowaves from a scanner 24/7/365 that there "may" be some reaction, but of course have no evidence to state that. I am not saying this to play down the subject/seriousness of the original post, but I would think (personal opinion again) that we have far more to worry about in our dog's environment than the chip many place in their neck. Best Regards, Bob-O

by Preston on 27 December 2007 - 00:12

ne of the concerns with microchips was contamnation in the glass envelope, allowing carcinogenic chemicals to leach out, not any effects from the radio wave generating and receiving "scanners" used to read them. It would suprise me if any of these envelopes were comprised of lab quality, surgical grade glass could ever cause cancer at the site.

Bob-O

by Bob-O on 27 December 2007 - 01:12

Preston, we were typing at the same time. After I made the post I thought of something else. I do not know what frequency these microchips use, but all radio frequencies are regulated by the Federal Aviation Administration (F.A.A.) so it would have to be in an area approved by them. The one (1) possibility I see is if the frequency used by the microchip is the same (or very nearly the same) as the frequency emitted by other devices, perhaps common devices. All electrical apparatus, and especially electric motors generate a radiowave frequency; however weak. What triggered my memory was the use of large macrowave dryers that are used in the web printing industry to cure or semi-cure adhesive applications. Of course one wants to obtain maximum drying power, so certain frequencies work best for paper or other substrates. The frequency used by these dryers was within a couple of decimal points to the same frequency used by the F.A.A. to indicate an aeroplane was either in severe distress or had crashed, depending on whether the values went up or went down. It did not require much to alter the "tuning" of these dryers, and even a split-second burst was a legal violation. One can imagine what a chief engineer does when suddenly there are large trucks equipped with receiving saucer antennae plus important-looking guys with uniforms and badges descending on his operation. So, there is a possibility that the microchip frequency is very near to that of something else, but what could it be? Interesting. Regards, Bob-O

Birdy

by Birdy on 27 December 2007 - 02:12

A few years ago I was attending an AI seminar for bovine and was more interested in the topic being discussed in the other room. I overheard the vet talking about concerns with micro-chipping and immune deficiency. Couldn't hear much more but wish I did. Birdy...

gsdlova

by gsdlova on 27 December 2007 - 03:12

I think there's 4 different microchip frequencies: 125 kHz unencrypted, 125 kHz encrypted, 128 kHz, and 134 kHz. Not sure which company uses which.

Bob-O

by Bob-O on 27 December 2007 - 17:12

Thanks for the information Gsdlova. None of those frequencies will be triggered by anything in the home as even through phase shift harmonics there is no frequency sufficently close. Interesting still. Regards, Bob-O

animules

by animules on 27 December 2007 - 23:12

I can't find the studies right off hand right now. However, a couple showed the percentage of cancer in and around micro chips to be the same percentage as animals without. Mice, rats, dogs, and cats were included. Also, to take that a step farther. The National Animal Identification System (NAIS) is pushing for micro chipping ALL animals considered livestock, cattle, equines, sheep, goats, pigs, llamas, alpacas, poultry........ This is being pushed on a national level for all animals pet or commercially raised. Scary thought for people that do think micro chips cause cancer (and for people who don't think that much government control is neccesary). If cancer from a micro chip is a concern for a dog that lives 14-years, what kind of concern for "pets" that live to be 25 to 30-years?





 


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