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by Brady on 18 February 2008 - 23:02

I am waiting to hear back from the Va. Tech Chemistry Dept. regarding this stuff.  Hopefully will hear tomorrow.  Well let all know once I do.  I called several Vets. in the area and no one has heard of it or knows what it is.  We did not notice anything wrong with his paws when we got him but the picture was taken several weeks prior to that.  Someone did recommend having the vet note it in his chart incase there are any problems in the future.  Probably well be OK, but just in case.   


by Dogmom2004 on 19 February 2008 - 05:02

I hope he is fine.  Good luck.


by Speaknow on 19 February 2008 - 06:02

K-permanganate isn’t that uncommon. The army used it at one stage against tinea (who knows, still may). They had basins for each soldier to step in each time they showered. It also has some gardening uses but I’ve forgotten what. Even in highly diluted form (as mostly used) it stains like nobody’s business but in that state toxic, dangerous or ‘burning’? – not that I’ve ever heard of.

Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 19 February 2008 - 14:02

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_permanganate

Gotta watch what you mix it with. (read: BOOM!)

SS


by hodie on 19 February 2008 - 18:02

Again people, don't freak. Potassium permanganate in the form it was likely used, in the dilution it was used, is nothing more than a stain. Yes, it is an oxidizer. In the wrong hands, and using it improperly could cause an explosion. But unless you understand what you are reading on MSDSs, toxicology information etc., all it does is serve to freak some of you out and make Brady more uncomfortable. The chance that there is any long term damage is practically nil. 

I have a lot of experience with this chemical in low concentration dilutions and in solid or high concentration dilutions. Like all chemicals, it has value and can be safely handled. Like all chemicals, it can be misused, and like all chemicals, including normal table salt, in the wrong hands, or dose, it can be toxic.


by Brady on 19 February 2008 - 19:02

FYI -

I did finally get a return phone call from the Chemistry Dept. of Va. Tech this afternoon.  The person I spoke with was a little more than disturbed thinking that this was used on an animal.  I had to repeat myself twice becasue he did not think that he heard me correctly the first time.  He wants to speak to a colleague of his and said he would call me back. 

There can be long term effects if inhaled or swallowed even in its diluted form.  Hopefully care was taken to immediately wash this stuff off his paws so that he did not ingest it.  I wonder if there can be any recourse through the state or such for her using this as she did??? I know that in any form it is still considered a hazardous material and must be disposed of as such. 


by Brady on 19 February 2008 - 20:02

FYI -

I did finally get a return phone call from the Chemistry Dept. of Va. Tech this afternoon.  The person I spoke with was a little more than disturbed thinking that this was used on an animal.  I had to repeat myself twice becasue he did not think that he heard me correctly the first time.  He wants to speak to a colleague of his and said he would call me back. 

There can be long term effects if inhaled or swallowed even in its diluted form.  Hopefully care was taken to immediately wash this stuff off his paws so that he did not ingest it.  I wonder if there can be any recourse through the state or such for her using this as she did??? I know that in any form it is still considered a hazardous material and must be disposed of as such. 


by hodie on 19 February 2008 - 21:02

 Brady,

if and when you have time pm me and I will give you the toxicology information. You are scaring yourself. As for haz mat disposal, that is my business for 35 years. It is not always required that it be disposed as a haz waste. It must meet certain criteria first.

 


by 1doggie2 on 19 February 2008 - 21:02

What the heck is wrong with society that someone would expose this pup to anything that cold possibly burn and later harn the health of the pup. Just so it could be sold as a "show pup" . The breeder sells the pup as a show pup, then wants it netured before they send the papers on the pup. YUCK........... I hope the pup has found a good home where it will be cared for.


by Speaknow on 20 February 2008 - 02:02

Fine sense of humor there, Shelley. Just recalled I once used it on my roses, Brady (if it wasn’t for the stubborn staining I doubt I’d have used gloves). You’re worrying needlessly – read Wiki – it’s even used as a mild antiseptic on exposed human wounds.For home use it’s normally sold as granules/crystals in smallish necked jars so inhaling isn’t all that probable. As a dye made from just a few granules in a cup of water you could probably drink it without ill effects! Easy to see what happened here: white socks area showed slight fungal rash and Victoria, deeply concerned, used this to get rid of it. Considering its historical and myriad uses, including in laboratories, your sources seem questionable!





 


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