covy-tucker hills - Page 5

Hey all you people out there with the German bred GSDs who dont like the AKC ring. I have American line GSDs and I totally understand where you are coming from! It is not always that the judge really thinks your dog is "pet quality" but rather that your face isnt well known. I know that isnt much better but it is true! I looked up Sam. I love his front, color, bone, coat, and most everything about him! And I know what you will think of this next comment but, the ONLY thing I would change on him is a little, very little, more curve to the styfle. I dont mean angles or be more extreme. I like a dog who is functional but I also want them beautiful and curvy. My bet is that had you taken him to a few more shows you would have done quite well with him! At least today. There are SO MANY judges now who are breeders of GSDs and bring in the German lines and love them. I know a couple who show pure German lines with no American in the dogs. It is true that some of the American line breeders have bred their GSDs into scaredy cat little fluffs but there are also a lot of lines out there that are just as good at working as the German lines. I am in the process of purchacing a puppy from such a line. His uncle was a poster boy for the local schutzhund club. Until they found out he was a BIS Ch. So all I am asking is if you want to go out and rant about the AKC people kicking you out, remeber that there are schutzhund clubs that do the same. And there are many breeders out there trying hard to combine the two! Speaking of which, anyone have a German line stud with some nice titles??

PS: if you want to see my dogs go to www.geocities.com/jimchyn

One of the worst lines to purchase from inbreed and line breed to the hilt! If you want a sick, nervy dog then purchase not something most would do. They were big show breeders in the fifties and often breed brother to sister to get the sloped effect. I saw one about ten years ago when we entered one of our dogs in the obedience trials at a AKC ring and we went and looked at some of the shepherds and the people there with the Tucker Hills shepherds doing the show thing were giving steriods to the dogs I asked why and they said they would be to stiff to walk without them as they had been in the ring all day and I thought to myself then what a shame for someone to breed so thoughtless to achieve a look. Thumbs down on this line if you want a show line plenty of kennels with some good lines these are the worst of the worst . 

Marlene

Please note, this is a four year old thread!!!!

     I have to make a "Spectators" comment here,,,"Dallas " is a great looking Male German Shepherd.. If you like "American Lines!!!!',There still ain't too much to write home about there. I'd have to say "LUCKY DOG" there.....I know of "grandsons" of "Dallas" with BAD KID ATTITUDE!!!   NOT GOOD,,,Sure "Gorgeous" male ,,BUT...do you really need to QUESTION?? the dog,,situation?I WOULD RATHER NOT... I really don't know ALOT..."BUT" I know enough., AND I AM STILL LEARNING!!!

      CHEERS TO MANY!     on this board,   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!JEERS to some!!!!!!

Dallas grandsons with a BAD KID ATTITUDE?

Here's my Dallas granddaughter:

She has a wonderful temperment. She is afraid of nothing, and bosses my big male GSD around. Her conformation isn't too shabby, either!

No, no way would I buy a Covy-Tucker Hill dog either. (I know this is an old thread, but I have to get my 2 cent's worth in, because Gloria Birch is judging the Canadian Specialty in Kitchener, Ontario this week. The owners of the kennel proudly proclaim that they breed dogs that are 'extreme at both ends.' I've also heard they're something of a puppy mill. They breed an awful lot of dogs, without much regard for health and temperment.

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KitKat, did you see Dallas for yourself? If so and you didn't like him, that's your perrogative.  Closing your mind to Am lines is not the way to learn about the breed if that's really what  you want to do. They are not all bad anymore than the imports are all good. If  you are here to learn then you will do better by keeping an open mind. Finding faults in a dog is easy, the man off the street can learn to do that in a matter of a few minutes.  Learning about the breed is not about that at all.  I find you cheers and jeers to be insulting.

I think this kennel produced some good dogs in the early days. Manhatten was no sloutch and there were other good ones. Their dogs have changed over the years as much as the imports have. Few breeds have remained static when the judges are allowed to decide which dogs are really the best and which should be the popular stud dogs for all bitches.

We used to see a LOT of Covy Tucker Hill's dogs in our clubs in CA. Almost 100% of them were spooks, walking on their hocks when they weren't turning inside out in the face of any kind of stress. You couldn't give me one. My vet used to put whole litters to sleep at 5 mos. because they were so unsound. Hopefully they have gotten better, sounder dogs necessary for herding, but I'm not betting on it. One thing for sure, those two old broads produced a LOT of them!

SS

I doubt they've gotten better over the years. The ones I've seen here are not very sound.  Hatter may have been the last of their good dogs and he was whelped in the late 70's early 80's I think.