Palin and aerial shooting of Wolves - Page 2

Opal,

It doesn't suprise me the all the different agency's can't get anything done, territorial pissing contest is how it usually end's up.

If the pack's are coming closer to town they are either hungry from lack of game, or they are losing their fear of human's.

The failing salmon have so much to do with over fishing at sea before they ever start up the river's and stream's, plus the condition of the river's and stream's.  Man made problem's.

I'm not too conflicted about wolf hunting in Alaska, I'm sure there are plenty, and some area's probably do need some management, but I don't think much of hunting them from plane's.  Hell I'll come up and hunt wolf sometime..:)

They are beautiful and needed in nature but I could hunt them as long as their number's can handle the harvest.   We manage the Turkey and Deer here.   Migratory bird's are some of the most legislated creature's in the USA.

Bear attack's in a municiple park should be an automatic death sentence as far as I'm concerned..  Are you talking Black bear or Brown?   Either way I wouldn't trade bear for people.

I still will leave the Governor out of this..LOL    But they are suposed to be taking care of business.

Brent.

Someone would have to be a cold hearted SOB psychopatch for wanting to kill (and for killing) this wonderful and gorgeous creature, The Wolf.

Does this picture impress you anti wolf activist? Why does this picture amuses you?

or how about some of this

Do you seriously get a rush by murdering these beautiful creatures?

I sure hope theirs a place in hell for these kind of people.

http://www.heartofthewolf.org/Murderers.htm

That makes me very sad , it is true wolves do not make good pets, I have been in wolf resue now for 15 years, the things I have seen because people "want a wolf" that however doesn't make shooting them from a plane fair. I think we should round up all the hunters that want to shoot wolves from airplaines and do the same to them...see how long they last running from a plane and a gun. 

My opinion is that, Alaskans should know what is best for Alaska.  Police your own back yard before putting your nose in someone else's way of living.

[Two Moons] "You can buy a pure wolf, and you can buy a hybred, some require permit's and other's don't allow it at all.  Depend's on where you live."

Montana law requires that any captive, domestic or hybrid animal that is more than half wolf be permanently tattooed and registered with Fish, Wildlife and Parks and that any escaped animal be reported. Since the law passed in 1985, 332 tattoo registration numbers have been issued and 60 people have registered captive or hybrid wolves ~Billings Gazette March 1st, 2007

This excerpt was from a story of a "mystery predator" that killed more than 120 sheep in Eastern Montana in 2006.  DNA testing concluded that while it was a full blooded wolf, its diverse genetic origins were from the Great Lakes area, lower 48 states, and Alaska, leading investigators to believe it was a product of domestic breeding, and not a natural wild population.  The rightful/original wolves of Yellowstone were pretty much exterminated a century ago, and the US government has broken the Endangered Species Act, by introducing a non-native species to the region (for all the Brittany's of the world to enjoy).  The original wolves of the region often hunted in pairs and weighed up to 80 pounds. The Canadians hunt in packs, numbering as many as 27, and weigh in excess of 150 pounds, like these ones recently taken in Wyoming.

Man has invaded the wolf's territory leaving them with the choice of killing livestock or dying from starvation.  Their food of choice is the caribou. I've never heard of a wolf stalking a human. where did you read that? Maybe they were after the dogs, not the people? At any rate, it's a big problem for Alaska and as much as I deplore the shooting of animals from a plane, I have a problem considering that a sport, I understand that the overpopulation needs to be managed somehow in order for humans to live where they want the way they want. The Inuits existed peacefully with wolves for centuries understanding and respecting their ways. Our philosophy has evolved from those days, we are more cultured and civil now so we have given ourselves the right to take what we want and to never give back. After all, it's the American way and it's always all about us..

When food was plentiful, many timberwolves reached 125 lbs or more according to accounts from Inuits and white men living in the tundra. Other species are smaller.

Frankly, I'd be ashamed to have my picture proudly displayed  with a dead wolf.  Killing them seems to me to be a matter of necessity rather that something to brag over. 

It's interesting that the Idaho wolf has a collar.   Could that be a tracking collar?

The two large wolve's look like arctic wolve's, my hybred was arctic and wieghed 120 at a year.  

I'd hunt Brittany, but not from a plane.  People hunt for many reason's.  To me it's not really a sport.  It's natural.

Killing done in the name of pest control usually is ugly and you can see the Idaho wolf was gut shot.  

I've been to Billing's , Livingston, and Boseman.   Been down thru Paradise Valley.  I almost moved there, but the local economy was not in good shape.   Just north of Yellowstone outside the park my buddy who was surveying was tree'd by a grizzly.  Animal's do not stay in one place, Yellowstone doesn't contain the wolve's bison, or the bear's.  People with permit's for the bison sometime's wait at the border for one to leave the park.   Rancher's are at odd's with the government every since the wolve's were released.  These are the people who had rid of the wolve's in the first place.

Man can't live side by side with nature, he alway's has to control and change it to his own end's.   Of course the white man couldn't live with the native American's either.   I'm not proud of that at all. 

Oh Lord, take me back, I wanna ride in Geronimo's Cadilac.

It's all really sad to me, our world.

Palin's got nothing to do with that, it's everyone's shame.

I understand that the overpopulation needs to be managed somehow in order for humans to live where they want the way they want.

Blitzen, I think we should look into our own backyard before trying to police another species. Just how many people do you think are living on this planet right now as we speak of? Just how many of them are children that are the state of the ward because of irresponsible people? Mother nature doesn't need our help and we should stop acting like god's because we tend to screw things up real bad.

Humans need to stop being so damn selfish and learn to share.

If a wolf gets into your cattle and kills one of your cows,etc... guess who's fault that is? It certainly isn't the wolfs fault. If people weren't so damn cheap maybe they can invest of a none lethal options to scare off the wolf. Theirs currently an experimental device that's being tested on right now called Radio Activated Guard (RAG) . You may go to http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1462&context=icwdm_usdanwrc (PDF) For more information regarding to the RAG device. Wolves are motived in pure instincts. How dare the human sentence these wolves to death for using what mother nature gave to them to survive. How many of these sub humans that are on death row right now who are living under the tax payers money waiting to be executed as we speak of? Why isn't David westerfield, the man who was convicted for the murder and kidnapping of seven-year-old Danielle Van Dam in 2002 still alive right now? Why is Scott Peterson, the man who was convicted of murder of his wife, Laci Peterson, who was eight months pregnant at the time still on death row in San Quentin State Prison?  It usually takes them up to 7 to 8 years to be executed. Why don't the wolves have a fair trial as these heinous subhumans that murder for the sole purpose of pleasure?

I'd hunt Brittany, but not from a plane.  People hunt for many reason's.  To me it's not really a sport.  It's natural.

Brent,
Why would you even consider hunting down a wolf? Whats your motives? Do you eat what you kill? Do you eat dogs? Just be honest with me because I truly want to understand what goes thru the minds of those who are about to kill.

The Wolf are kings of the canine world... I don't understand why anyone would want to disrespect these gorgeous creatures in such a heinous way.

I imagine people can shoot them for reasons like this :

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=825_1198391329

~Cate

According to this link, these women took their dogs and deliberatly went into an area that was clearly identified as being populated by wolves that could cause a danger to humans. Would you have gone there?

Brittany, I don't disagree with you. For many years I've been a supporter of a wolf rescue and know a lot of people who work with these animals. Sadly the Alaskan public domain has caused many of their own  problems with wolves by encroaching on their natural habitat and depriving them of the game they need to survive.  They also create major problems by feeding the wolves thus giving wolves the notion that humans are food sources and not to be feared. Fear of humans has traditionally kept them from preying on us.  Removing that fear by feeding them human food removes our protection from this animal's predatory nature. And then we are stupid enough to do as the 4 women talked about in the above link - deliberately take dogs into an area that is clearly identified as a wolf area and not safe for humans. How stupid was that? The presence of dogs will agitate wolves and they will then become aggressive as a defence mechanism. I have to wonder if those wolves would have attack these women had they not had dogs with them. We will never know. As far as I can learn, there have been very few documented cases of healthy wolves attacking humans.  Wolves are subject to rabies and rabid wolves have been known to attack and even kill humans in Europe.

Did you ever read the book by Harley Mowat entitled "Never Cry Wolf"? If not you may want to read it. It has also been made into a movie  you shold be able to rent. Mowat studied a pack of wolves for several years, in Canada I think. Very interesting stuff.

We humans must learn to give up some of the things we have come to value such as living wherever we please with no thought whatsoever of preserving wildlife habitats. Otherwise there will never be room in this world for predators of any kind  other than the human variety. Sad as it may sound, some call that progress.