Palin and aerial shooting of Wolves - Page 5

It's very hard for any reasonable person to disagree with Molly.

Michael

This convention is so bogus...  I have to take a break from watching...

I see your all still argueing about the wolve's...   Let's leave the wild place's to nature because man has never improved on it and is incapable of managing it.  All it needs to survive is the absence of man.

Julianni is about to make me hurl  !!   TV's still on.

I haven't seen any of BabyEagle's crew at all and none of the media even mention's the independant's , that's just not right.

Still gonna watch Sarah when she get's there..  I've still got an open mind about it.

Aint it great !!

As usual human societys have no idea what they are doing to natures balance and as more are killed off.We kill ourselves in the long run.Off topic as follows..The killing fields.Everyone can use an excuse to not look.The aerial killing of horses in a land that was once free to them.The aerial killing of burros in the grand canyon stemming of breeding from the gold pioneer days....Those that try to save become like zoo's on a political speech washed out as the tide resedes.People in general are too spoiled.

I used a photo editing program to look at this picture, that's a wolf pelt carefully placed to look like an attack...it has no eyes, & no lower jaw. I wish I could get the cropped & zoomed close-up to post. I could not get the 'video' to load, so I can only judge by the picture, but this photo is staged. Wolf attacks on humans are very rare. You have a better chance of getting hit by lightening. I agree with Two Moons. jackie harris

There aren't really cattle or sheep ranchers in Alaska - not much agriculture because the climate is so extreme in most places.  The women were not walking in an area that was well know to be frequented by wolves - they have been spotted rarely but the trail is RIGHT NEXT to the highway.  The hypothesis was because our snow cover was so low that the moose hadn't yet come down out of the mountains leaving the wolves without natural prey.  I believe that one or two wolves were shot and the rest stayed out of sight for the rest of the winter.

When I speak of rural residents I don't really mean people who decide to live out there as a conscious choice; many of the people are Native Alaskans whose families have lived traditional subsistence lifestyles for generations.  There are not grocery stores in the villages and they are not on the road system, just maybe a small general store.  Who would pay to relocate entire villages - PETA?  Highly unlikely.  Historically, indigenous people would starve when populations of game decreased, but I don't think that anyone can stand by and let that happen.

The bear that was implicated in the attacks was a grizzly, probably a sow with cubs.  They haven't yet located it - one bear was shot but the DNA (!!) didn't match the fur found at the scene of the attack.  A black bear was also shot the same week for going into someone's garage and getting into the garbage.  When police tried to run it off it wouldn't go.

I personally don't hunt because I'm terrified of getting eaten by a bear while out in the wilderness.  My husband does, and so do most of the people I know - they put up the meat for the winter.  I do, however, love to go fishing!  Halibut is my favorite.

Opal

Sure it's staged. It doesn't look real and who would stand with a camera filming a wolf attacking a human? I couldn't load the video either.

the video has nothign to do with the picture - yes it was staged, obviously not a living wolf -

two ladies out walking their dogs on what looked like a fire break or road - the road had signs warning of wolves in the area - or bear?  Anyway, warning signs.  pack of wolves approached and followed them and would not leave.  One dog was attacked but the ladies were able to get it away from the wolves.  Wolves "were not afraid" and would not leave, continued to follow and act like they were going to attack them.  Never did.  because they were after the dogs, not the people - and they did not challenge or attack or injure the people in any way.  Scared them though.  As I said - if they had gone walking without dogs, they wouldn't have had a problem.  The wolves saw the dogs as prey.   They did not attack the people.

molly

Kalibeck and whoever else may have mentioned the above photo, I agree , it is not the real thing. Looks fake.  And again aerial shooting of wolves, horses (I have horses and love 'em) , burros etc. is "chicken shit"!  But trying to deny what it is like living in an area you have lived for 30 years w/o the threat of over population of wolves is the same as me telling you what to do in your suburban, city lifestyles. Live there, deal with your day to day. But you should not be passing judgement on people living their lives hundreds or thousands of miles from you. Try to understand, if you live in a spot for a very long time, then "it" gets invaded upon (by wolves), it is hard to think you are doing the invading. IMO it is what is a big part wrong with this whole country. People have placed "their" values on logging, mining, ranching, drilling and to an extinction. We are ruining the environment! OMG! Now look at the condition of this country. We import everything while we struggle to survive because their is no industry, and guess what? The rest of the world is still logging, mining, ranching, drilling and yes killing wolves if they are a problem to them. What makes you think "we" the almighty USA are making a big impact on the saving of the world when the rest of the world is doing the same things you protest? Some of you guys are just living in your own little worlds without the reality of what others are dealing with. When you breed a cow or a whole herd and your livelihood depends on what the outcome of its survival is and have it wiped out, it is no different than me saying I cut your hours to 20 a week. If you want my opinion, quit having sex and reproducing so many people, then there might be enough room for all of us! After all it is what is pushing us into their territory, isn't it?

Well, that shoots that story all to hell, doesn't it?

I live in the middle of the woods, yes, it's Pa, not Alaska, but we have bears, & deer, coyotes, & fox, & even the occassional bobcat. You have to be careful. You have to watch where & how you leave your garbage, your pets, & especially your kids. But it's so worth it, to know these wild things can co-exist with us. They are making a comeback, despite our intrusions on their habitat. They've figured out how to deal with us. Too bad we're not that smart! With us, it's our way, or die. Who's the animal, really? I hope we have the good sense to leave wild places wild....or we may find out, too late, that our habitat is ruined, too. Just my $0.02! jh