Palin and aerial shooting of Wolves - Page 7

Very simple question - do you think humans have the right to take over any and all wildlife habitats and kill off the native animals that they feel threaten their lifestyle? Yes or no? If yes, what gives them that right?

Molly, your post was just as stupid.  Montana people got wolves shoved down their throat, because someone who didn't have to live with that decision "just wanted to know they were out there", and because scientists and conservationists were thrilled at the new opportunity for study.  Montana people were there first, before Canadian wolves encroached their territory.  Let Alaska decide for itself.

So you're saying the problem isn't the reintroduction of the wolf per se, it's because they were the wrong species of wolves for Montana?

The more I read this thread, the more convinced I am that some just like to kill animals for the hell of it and consider it their right as a surperior being.  Move in, take over their habitat, take away their game driving them into more populated areas where they learn to look to humans as a food source and lose their instinctive fear of people and then kill them for acting like wildlife.  We even have to look at staged photos of a wolf attack on a human to add a little more drama to the mix? For less than 4K you can join up with a guide and go to Canada and kill all the wolves you want. Just google wolf hunts. It's a great sport.

If you are SO opposed to humans not encroaching on animals' natural habitat, perhaps you would like to get rid of your dogs, bulldoze your dog-friendly home and move to a high-rise apartment in the city? Or maybe we could impose a maximum number of children people can produce, like China, so we won't NEED additional housing in future? There's no good remedy for this issue IMO as long as people insist on producing more than one child per capita, increading the human population.

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I in no way condone the destruction of wildlife, but I agree, leave Alaska to the Alaskans.  They know much better than any of you the dangers of living in such wild country and they know what they need to stay protected.

I agree about the disgusting photos, just goes to show you a leopard NEVER changes its spots! Once a troll, always a troll.

And were some of you really THAT naive as to take what animules said seriously? Sarcasm, people. Google it.

Animal biologists know more about what should be done with the wolves of Alaska than any internet anti-hunting crying for the animals expert

I've read some of these post's and skipped over some as well. I very strongly agree with Brittany and Molly. I feel that wolfs should be left alone and be respected and people should learn how to live side by side with these gorgeous animals and wildlife in general.  

As far as rancher's losing their livestock from wolfs, all they have to do is report it and the goverment pay's them back for what they have lost.

As far as let Alaska decide what's best for them? Palin is running for VP so she would decide for our WHOLE country not just Alaska if she gets the position and that is what scares me the most. I am for McCain but strongly question Palin on our wildlife in this country. If Africa uses neo sheperd dog's to keep lions, etc at bay from killing their live stock why can't the same be considered for Alaska and the wolfs, etc? It's not humane for them to be killed from plane's/snow mobiles, etc. They could just relocate them rather than killing them. I too have a pack of Coyotes living by me but I have had NO problems from them b/c of my dog's being outside. That is too hard of a meal for them to try and get. I guess all I'm trying to say is there are more ethical way's of dealing with these beautiful animals than killing them off. Relocate, relocate, relocate!!!!! Let me know if this link works and watch the video, and then let me know how you feel. I am a BIG time animal lover and do not approve of any of these methods that they are doing now to wildlife. We approached on their land not the other way around.  http://secure.defenders.org/https://secure.defenders.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=c406_090308palinwolf&JServSessionIdr012=d923hs8ka2.app27a

I am as strong a proponent of relocation as anyone, but nuisance animals will always be eliminated. I know of an awful lot of stuffed bears who failed to undertand the relocation process. Sad indeed. Welcome to reality.

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we had wolves in the UK once .....not any more thanks to the stupid notion that these animals pose a serious threat to society. IMHO they were here long before we were so why have we got the right to kill them. culling however is a different thing altogether if done fairly by a gamekeeper (on foot) who respects the natural world. in Scotland we cull deer to maintain a healthy balance. don't take me wrong i hate to see an life extinguished but done properly and humanely it is a good thing. culling can only be done if the numbers justify it.

wolves are becoming more and more rare and at this rate we will be lucky if there are any left for our children to see.

so sad they are such beautiful and intelligent animals.

Very simple question - do you think humans have the right to take over any and all wildlife habitats and kill off the native animals that they feel threaten their lifestyle? Yes or no? If yes, what gives them that right?Blitzen in answer to your question(s). No, I do not think we have the right to take over "all" wildlife habitats and kill off native animals that threaten our lifestyle. But I do think that effective mangement needs to be in place. The times have changed and people are here to stay. Regrettably reproduce like rats. Most Montanans prefer to keep Montana rural, and are also more nature conscious and respecting to wildlife than most.Also in the case of the wolves, they were no longer native to my area/county whatever you would choose to call it. I think what gives us the right is the state of Montana did not ask/want for wolf reintroduction. It was crammed down our throat by the federal government and environmentalists. I have read your stand on pro-choice because of the fact the government is taking away more of peoples rights. Here is a link to Fish,Wildlife and Parks: http://fwp.mt.gov/tmc/vignettes/wolf.html Please read at least "Role of Outsiders". There is also alot of other good info in this article. I also like toward the bottom. The Sampler of peoples comments. Particularly the 2nd to the last. Makes good sense to me.

Two Moons: I agree the aerial hunting is BS! Here are some links to articles pertaining to what the State of Montana was hoping in the delisting of wolves off the endangered species act and how they wanted to manage them. To being shot down in courts again. http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2007/01/30/news/mtregional/news07.txt  http://fwp.mt.gov/news/article_6633.aspx  , http://fwp.mt.gov/wildthings/wolf/default.html